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Carla Lane On Radio 5 Live Page 2

Quote: John Kelly @ September 23 2008, 9:12 AM BST

Does it ever strike the men who write these tirades that sometimes men and women write from different perspectives and maybe one of the reasons Lane was so popular was that she spoke to a different experience to all the men who then, and largely still do, dominate comedy.

Sorry, don't agree. Are you saying "look women don't really get humour like we do, so they like this stuff that isn't very good." ? :)

Personally I (and probably most of my female friends and family) don't like the work of the women you listed. We also don't like Sex and the City, Desperate Housewive, Bridget Jones, etc.

Quote: Perry Nium @ September 23 2008, 1:44 AM BST

Except for Butterflies, where they're middle class poets.

Quote: Tim Walker @ September 23 2008, 7:54 AM BST

Oh, and from my experience, love is not one f**king bit like a butterfly.

How did the tune go....wasn't it

"Love is like a butterfly
It's an insect of the order Lepidoptera
With a tapered thorax and a compound eye
And a pupal metamorphosis"

or something

Quote: John Kelly @ September 23 2008, 9:12 AM BST

Just try writing one episode of a sitcom, it's bloody hard.

That's not hard. Digging a hole is hard. And selling it is hard. But not writing it.

Quote: John Kelly @ September 23 2008, 9:12 AM BST

O.K. you don't like Carla Lane's writing, but for Christ's sake recognise that she had real craft and it takes ability, not luck, to attract more viewers than almost any other comedy writer today.

Of course Carla Lane had a talent. It's just that to me, her talent was marred by her insistence on including this ridiculous flowery dialogue. No-one speaks like that, that's my gripe. All the dialogue seemed so "acted" to me.

Anyway, yes obviously she was popular, but then again that was back in the days when there was only 4 channels so people would watch any old shit.

Just a personal opinion, amd absolutely nothing to do with her sex.

3 channels

Have just Listened Again. If anyone else is searching it was on 5 Live on the Stephen Nolan programme, albeit presented by someone else, on the 21st September. It starts about 1hour and 11mins in, which puts it about 10 past midnight.

While I was searching the BBC site for it I found an article from June this year about Carla Lane selling her house. Like her or loathe her, she must have made a packet! Incidentally, I used to enjoy Butterflies and The Liver Birds. Both of which my mum watched. Bread I wasn't a big fan of but do remember watching it.

Quote: Marc P @ September 23 2008, 10:18 AM BST

3 channels

Really? Bloody Hell it seems c4 has been around forever

Does anyone remember the Last Laugh BBc compo where you had to write the last ten minutes to a sitcom a "pro" had written? There were about ten scripts / writers to choose from I think.

Not many went for Carla Lane's as I remember...

Quote: Griff @ September 22 2008, 7:24 PM BST

Carla Lane wrote Bless This House? You learn something every day.

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Bless This House was created and mainly written By Vince Powell (Mind Your Language) and Harry driver (Love Thy Nieghbour). A lot of it was 'farmed out' to other writers; one of whom was Carla Lane who wrote 10 out of 65 episodes.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066633/

Quote: Griff @ September 22 2008, 7:24 PM BST

Carla Lane wrote Bless This House? You learn something every day.

And on the subject of unlikely connections, Jonathan Lynn of Yes Minister wrote some of the later On the Buses.

Only Carla Lane I enjoyed was Butterflies. Bread was horrible cobblers. Whenever I see her now she always seems to be having some kind of moan about how things have changed.

Quote: John Kelly @ September 23 2008, 9:12 AM BST

They say it's hard for women to succeed in comedy, and when you see the level of abuse ranged against women like Carla Lane, Catherine Tate, Susan Nickson, you can see why it's difficult. Does it ever strike the men who write these tirades that sometimes men and women write from different perspectives and maybe one of the reasons Lane was so popular was that she spoke to a different experience to all the men who then, and largely still do, dominate comedy.

O.K. you don't like Carla Lane's writing, but for Christ's sake recognise that she had real craft and it takes ability, not luck, to attract more viewers than almost any other comedy writer today.

I think you're suffering from the misapprehension that to give an honest opinion about one female comedy writer's output is to damn all female comedy writers with some misogynistic brush. This is certainly not what I'm doing. There are plenty of great female comedy writers and performers out there.

And I think you're completely wrong to say that men and women necessarily write from different perspectives. I think you're slightly damning women with faint praise on this.

Finally, I was not denying Carla Lane had abillity, I was just saying the majority of her writing doesn't strike me as very funny. And there are those of us in the younger generations who will certainly have ability too. Carla Lane doesn't endear herself in her cause to have her show picked up, though, when she basically slags off current comedy without even having the respect to watch it.

Well, I liked Butterflies a lot.

Bread f**ked me off though. Majorly.

I hope that has cleared up any confusion.

Dan

I think whether you like Carla Lane's stuff or not, she doesn't help herself by appearing in various media over the last 20 years being a misery guts telling everyone how bad current comedy (which she doesn't watch) is because she isn't getting commissioned. Write some better stuff, Carla!

Quote: Tim Walker @ September 23 2008, 5:37 PM BST

Carla Lane doesn't endear herself in her cause to have her show picked up, though, when she basically slags off current comedy without even having the respect to watch it.

Quote: Badge @ September 24 2008, 1:19 AM BST

I think whether you like Carla Lane's stuff or not, she doesn't help herself by appearing in various media over the last 20 years being a misery guts telling everyone how bad current comedy (which she doesn't watch) is because she isn't getting commissioned. Write some better stuff, Carla!

Absolutely agree with these points. How can she dare to criticise modern comedy without having watched it!

The fact she's not getting stuff made is that either she's annoyed the commissioners by moaning so much or, more likely, just isn't writing anything funny. I think she was a bit spoiled in the 70s and 80s!

One of the things I remember most, about Bread, was that hardly any of the actors in it were actual Scousers - the actors playing Nellie Boswell, Freddy Boswell and Jack Boswell being the only real Scousers in it.

Quote: catskillz @ September 24 2008, 11:40 PM BST

One of the things I remember most, about Bread, was that hardly any of the actors in it were actual Scousers - the actors playing Nellie Boswell, Freddy Boswell and Jack Boswell being the only real Scousers in it.

What I remember most was all the annoying catchphrases.

"She is a tart!"
"Greetings!"
"Piss off I'm havin' me tea".

And the (poetic again) wayward father who dressed like a gentleman tramp from the the 1930s.

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