Quote: Frankie Rage @ September 17 2008, 3:59 PM BSTA human life is so short in duration that time, effectively, doesn't exist.
Try telling that to a Slagg Brothers' audience. They know the meaning of eternity. 
I like the idea of time as an illusion, Ian. If only I could create a better illusion of my own life.
Quote: Perry Nium @ September 17 2008, 3:27 PM BSTBut doesn't that suggest that God is fallible? I thought God was meant to be all-powerful, able to influence time and space like a great big holy Doctor Who?
See that's omnisience, omnipresence, and omnipotence. A philosophical construct from the Middle Ages, based on if God is the bestest thing in the Universe, then he'd be all those things.
If one looks at Genesis, it takes him 7 days to create the Earthm he forgot to create woman. When he did he bolloxed it up by making her stupid enough to talk to talking snakes, and man stupid enought to take what she said second hand.
Not only that by why not build a patch of stinging nettles around the tree of knwledge?
By any Biblical account God is a lazy, shoddy DIY guy, miserably ambling around a celestial B&Q.
Quote: Frankie Rage @ September 17 2008, 3:32 PM BSTYour continued existence disproves that.
There's plenty of time for me yet.
Quote: WrongTale @ September 17 2008, 2:27 PM BSTWho the hell is Katey Price?
Google Image 'Katy Price' or 'Jordan'. But not at work.
Or in front of the wife.
Quote: ian_w @ September 17 2008, 3:54 PM BSTI sometimes wonder if time is actually real. What if time doesn't exist at all? We're only alive in this one moment and all our memories are illusion.
Hmm, that's probably why I'm not a philosopher
Or a very good lover.
Quote: Aaron @ September 17 2008, 4:38 PM BSTOr a very good lover.
Ooh you utter bitch!
Zoooooooo! Tell him what a bitch he's being!
Regarding this thread:
Yawn...
Y'all got a long, long way to go if you haven't yet cracked the "God" question.
Not one of you have given it more than about 20 cumulative minutes of consideration in your whole lives.
Takes a little more time and consideration than that!
Something cannot come from nothing, fools.
Start at square one and work your way back.
But you won't, and that's totally cool.
Don't, and remain a fool.
"Reaching for the stars, we blind the sky."
I am infact Pope Benedict and have considered God for a great deal more than 20 minutes.
Cheeky sod.
I am also not a homosexual, but as pope I find all girls yucky.
Quote: Skibbington von Skubber @ September 17 2008, 7:04 PM BSTSomething cannot come from nothing, fools.
Except God though, right?
Except bunnies in top hats.
Quote: zooo @ September 17 2008, 7:13 PM BSTExcept bunnies in top hats.
But even they came from magic dust or summats!
Oh that's true. And the word Abracadabra helps.
Quote: Skibbington von Skubber @ September 17 2008, 7:04 PM BSTRegarding this thread:
Yawn...
Y'all got a long, long way to go if you haven't yet cracked the "God" question.
Not one of you have given it more than about 20 cumulative minutes of consideration in your whole lives.
Sure I have, Richard Dawkins book took me like a freaking month to read and it took me just about all my life to get through the freaking bible...oh wait actually I never finished it, how does it end Skibbington von Skubber? Go ahead you can ruin the ending for me I don't mind.
Quote: Curt @ September 17 2008, 7:18 PM BSTSure I have, Richard Dawkins book took me like a freaking month to read and it took me just about all my life to get through the freaking bible...oh wait actually I never finished it, how does it end Skib?
How do you want it to end?
Have you any control over how you feel at this very moment?
Can you control your thoughts & feelings?
I can and do.
Start at square one and work your way back with simple logic.
All of the answers---and I mean ALL OF THEM---are always available at the time the question is asked.
But they aren't outside of you---and nor are the questions.
Imagine that!
Quote: Skibbington von Skubber @ September 17 2008, 7:23 PM BSTHow do you want it to end?
Have you any control over how you feel at this very moment?
Can you control your thoughts & feelings?
I can and do.
Start at square one and work your way back with simple logic.
All of the answers---and I mean ALL OF THEM---are always available at the time the question is asked.
But they aren't outside of you---and nor are the questions.
Imagine that!
what? I just wanted to know how the book ended?
Quote: ian_w @ September 17 2008, 7:12 PM BSTExcept God though, right?
Here's a shocking suggestion:
Define this "God".
What qualities does it have?
What can it do?
What can't it do?
And other than using your own mind and imagination, how do you ever expect to define "God" or realize what it is or isn't?
Define "God" based on YOUR grokking. Anyone else's definition is meaningless.
Too tired to do that right now? Does it hurt your wittle brains to think of such things?
Sooner or later you're going to think about this stuff until you figure it out. And until you figure it out, there will be no constant happiness or peace or satisfaction in your mortal life. You will continue to live by default like a cork bobbing on the waves of a mysterious sea. And that's cool, it happens to all of us.
You WILL define "God" sooner or later. You will feel stuck until you do so.
Quote: Skibbington von Skubber @ September 17 2008, 7:23 PM BSTStart at square one and work your way back with simple logic.
For someone advocating "simple logic", you do seem to be getting terribly confused; how can one work back from square one? Surely the only way is forward, when one is at the beginning.
