Let's talk about Richard Curtis's shite, middle-class suck-fest "comedy" movies instead.
Ben Elton and Lenny Henry - They're Dead To Me Page 4
What's wrong with middle class. Have I missed something?
They're the enemy!
Apparently.
Quote: Phoenix Lazarus @ 24th June 2013, 9:17 AM BSTI recall Lenny was on the Gary Davis show on Radio One one afternoon in 1988. He was in character as Theophilus Wildebeest and groped Nina Myskow,
That story is appalling at so many levels.
Quote: Marc P @ 25th November 2013, 11:39 AM GMTWhat's wrong with middle class. Have I missed something?
Well, I generalise for the sake of a forumesque debate obviously, but I'll start the ball rolling with: They tend often not to get their hands dirty for a much better living than for those who do; they tend to be quite class conscious, strengthening social divides and many are outright snobs who demonise 'chavs' to up their own class status; generally obsessed with property they have pushed prices up making it near impossible for 'the lower classes' to join them in the propertied ranks. I do er could go on...
Well you could and sometimes do Alfred.. but what you are talking about has nothing to do with so called class.
Yeh Kipper you're going to have to go back to class!
But I think class these days has oddly returned to a much older model, when it's all about money not education or status.
Quote: sootyj @ 25th November 2013, 12:37 PM GMTBut I think class these days has oddly returned to a much older model, when it's all about money not education or status.
Given declining social mobility those pretty much come down to the same thing.
But broad stereotypes are seldom helpful, unless you are writing comedy.
Well I think most people act out a perceived role pertaining to class, so they actually believe that by owning this or earning that and naming their kids that and this they are the embodiment of their favoured class, usually one of the middle or upper middle classes. And much moreover it is this association that comes with material wealth that really interests them.
Until relatively recently I think, the Americans generally had a more honest but 'vulgar' love for the material comforts of wealth while the British had an obsession with the status that wealth brings one, especially through the generations. Now the Americans have sadly seemed to acquire that obsession. And that's what Curtis is plainly exploiting.
Curtis is upper class
Curtis makes sporadically funny, always sentimental sketch comedy films about a fantasy world of make believe.
That has as much to do with reality as Mary Poppins.
Fun, silly, romantic but pointless absolutely.
Check out Notting Hill, it's like Leni Reiffenshtal made a sitcom for the BNP. No blacks, asians or muttering homeless, mentally ill types.
I used to work around there and he surgically removed both the reality and the charm from the place.
I think he really lost it with The Boat that Rocked, a revolting middle aged perv fest that wasn't funny. And needs a post Saville reexamination.
Yes it is really the upper classes that Curtis makes films about, which the poster above has got slightly wrong, but lets say aspiring upper middle can be seen viewed as almost the same.
Quote: Marc P @ 25th November 2013, 12:52 PM GMTCurtis is upper class
You can call a peanut a brazil it doesn't really help people. And putting people into different groups doesn't either.
His films are bizarre in that everyone's upper class, except for the servants.
It's alot like the old Avengers series.
It's weird sometimes to think this was the guy who cowrote Blackadder.
Well please tell HMOS that and the marketing firms who place us all into groups. I'd be happy to unclassified and classless even but that'll never happen in Britain in my lifetime.
Quote: Marc P @ 25th November 2013, 1:02 PM GMTAnd putting people into different groups doesn't either.
Quote: sootyj @ 25th November 2013, 12:56 PM GMTCurtis makes sporadically funny, always sentimental sketch comedy films about a fantasy world of make believe.
That has as much to do with reality as Mary Poppins.
Fun, silly, romantic but pointless absolutely.
I tend to agree, it's either always snowing, permanently Christmas or if it is in summer there's a perpetual wedding going on. It's called chocolate box commercialism, a thing the twee British Victorians invented.