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Bad day? Page 82

Quote: David Chapman @ August 13 2008, 7:56 PM BST

Why is it everyone else is allowed to be patriotic but us English? Is it because everyone else has an inferiority complex?

You're not allowed to be patriotic?? I was at the Proms in the Park and found it very patriotic. I liked the tongue-in-cheek singing of Rule Britannia. You'd be frowned upon in Germany if you sang a song like that (tongue-in-cheek is not a German strength, to be fair, so maybe it's for the better).

But generally the English appear very patriotic from an outside perspective (not necessarily in a bad way). The French are a bit annoyingly patriotic with their refusing to speak any language but their own.

You must admit, though, that it is a delicate subject. The worst thing surely is to fight about the label without clarifying its meaning. That's what Germans do. In an uncharacteristically passionate manner.

(Disclaimer: I mean the publicly acceptable mainstream opinion and the transported image when I say the Germans, the French, the English).

Quote: David Chapman @ August 13 2008, 7:56 PM BST

Why is it everyone else is allowed to be patriotic but us English? Is it because everyone else has an inferiority complex?

It's because the Government is Scottish.

Quote: PhQnix @ August 13 2008, 8:00 PM BST

Yes.

Football fans are an entirely lower class of people than the rest of the world. You shouldn't tar others with the same brush.

Quote: Finck @ August 13 2008, 8:39 PM BST

You're not allowed to be patriotic??

Anyone who is openly patriotic or seen to be pro-Britain or pro-England (more to the point) is labelled a racist. See the previous pages.

Quote: Finck @ August 13 2008, 8:39 PM BST

I was at the Proms in the Park and found it very patriotic. I liked the tongue-in-cheek singing of Rule Britannia.

That's the whole point! It should be serious, not flipping 'tongue-in-cheek'.

Quote: Finck @ August 13 2008, 8:39 PM BST

The French are a bit annoyingly patriotic with their refusing to speak any language but their own.

I'm not sure that's so much patriotism as obnoxiousness, and a failure/refusal to accept that Napoleon lost.

Quote: Aaron @ August 13 2008, 8:47 PM BST

Anyone who is openly patriotic or seen to be pro-Britain or pro-England (more to the point) is labelled a racist. See the previous pages.

That's not true. I didn't accuse you of being racist, I said there was a tendency for racism and patriotism to go hand in hand.

Quote: Aaron @ August 13 2008, 8:47 PM BST

I'm not sure that's so much patriotism as obnoxiousness, and a failure/refusal to accept that Napoleon lost.

Laughing out loud Laughing out loud

Ahhhh, you really make me larf.

Quote: PhQnix @ August 13 2008, 8:48 PM BST

That's not true. I didn't accuse you of being racist, I said there was a tendency for racism and patriotism to go hand in hand.

No, I didn't mean that you had. You're clever enough to know otherwise. And, perhaps more to the point, an individual can understand, the 'crowd' can't.

As the old saying goes: "People are stupid. A person is clever." (Paraphrased no doubt.)

Y'know, mob mentality and all that.

Anyway. Yeah.

Re: 'prezunctly'

Thank you for your message. I shall certainly note your contribution in the OED's new words file, but before we can embark on drafting an entry for any new word, we do need published evidence of sustained and
widespread use over a period of years. The OED is not like smaller dictionaries: once a word has been included it is never removed, so we
are quite slow to add new words.

Margot Charlton
Oxford English Dictionary

LOL. Did you seriously contact them then?! :D

Laughing out loud That's amazing!

Of course! It's a great word. :)

That is hilarious.

We'll have to all use it extensively and then try again in a few years!

No. Not a bad day. A shit day. Me and the boy were supposed to be up to the big smoke to see Spamalot and he got ill and couldn't travel. £250 wasted!

Oh no! That's awful! Could you not have gone with someone else?

Quote: roscoff @ August 20 2008, 12:58 AM BST

No. Not a bad day. A shit day. Me and the boy were supposed to be up to the big smoke to see Spamalot and he got ill and couldn't travel. £250 wasted!

That selfish bastard. What was wrong with him?

If he says "Leprosy", is that an acceptable excuse or just an excuse?

Just an excuse. Nothing a bit of Sellotape wouldn't handle.

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