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And you should bear in mind the Rob Newman sketch show on BBC4, The History of the World backwards.

TWTTIN!!

That Was Then This Is Now.

I doubt it's the same as yours, Griff.

You didn't miss much. And I don't think it really gelled critically or with a significant audience.

Quote: zooo @ May 29 2008, 4:10 PM BST

TWTTIN!!

That Was Then This Is Now.

I doubt it's the same as yours, Griff.

It was more about what happened on this week in history, so if your show is not like that, you're alright.

It is very good though, so if yours isn't, then that's not alright :)

Dan

Quote: Griff @ May 29 2008, 4:04 PM BST

I'm hoping to be pitching that historical sketch format to some industry peeps next month. Thank God I now know about the Richard Herring thing.

Hate to sound like a broken record, but when you pitch do have some good answers up your sleeve about budget. Anything I have written which involves period settings almost immediately gets nailed as being potentially too expensive. Good luck with it though.

A historical radio sketch show would be fun.

I'm currently working on a docu-com idea for one of those Radio 4 15 minute slots.

I think radio is probably the best medium (other than producing your own pod-casts/You Tube skits) for trying out not-the-norm comedy ideas.

Quote: Mike Greybloke @ May 28 2008, 9:55 PM BST

Something that helps me is an old Jedi mind trick. You just say:

"These aren't the comments I'm looking for. I can go about my business."

I can't stop laughing at this. Perhaps I need more food... Laughing out loud

Re: Graham Linehan. Every Friday he allows comments on his blog

http://whythatsdelightful.wordpress.com/

and it seems that he actually does go and look at the links that people post.

Re: "Has Grey Bloke been on telly yet? He seems to have been around the internet for aeons."

That's a bit depressing. I've been making them for just under a year, but I suppose that is aeons in internet time. The only telly interest I had was from Al Jazeera, weirdly, but I think they were looking for freebies.

And re: Historical radio series. There's a thing with Marcus Brigstocke in it called something like "2000 years of Radio" that you might want to check out as well.

Quote: Deferenz @ May 28 2008, 2:03 PM BST

I am feeling a bit bruised and battered today.

My writing partner and I sent out our pilot script to a number of prodco's in early Feb and I've just had one of them give some feedback.

Ouch! It was awful. It didn't have a good thing to say about our work. I currently feel deflated and pretty useless.

I know you have to take the rough with the smooth but the first time the rough hits it bloody hurts.

When the script was ready it went first to Marc Blake. He pointed out things he really liked and things he didn't like. He said we were very strong in certain areas and not as good in others. Fair enough. So we worked hard on the poorer parts before doing a final draft ready for sending out.

So why is it that where people like Marc Blake tell you things are really good, another set of feeback tells you the complete opposite?

I know I just need to pick myself up and continue writing but getting a knock does tend to jolt the confidence.

Def.

I seem to feel like that, randomly, with or without rejection! My brain does it all by itself. I've yet to get to the stage where I've sent my work to any producers, so will have to find some faith in myself before then.

It feels incredibly... wankerish (that's probably a word), to send you back such a response. However, I imagine while sitting at a desk, reading endless scripts, it's easy to overlook how much hard work has gone in to each - even if it's rubbish.

If you think it's funny, trust your instinct. I'd recommend arrogance as a future coping mechanism.

Quote: Rebecca Davies @ May 29 2008, 7:22 PM BST

If you think it's funny, trust your instinct. I'd recommend arrogance as a future coping mechanism.

Or large quantities of alcohol? Alcoholism is a tried and tested coping mechanism for writers.

Quote: Tim Walker @ May 29 2008, 7:24 PM BST

Or large quantities of alcohol? Alcoholism is a tried and tested coping mechanism for writers.

Sad but very very true.

Quote: Tim Walker @ May 29 2008, 4:39 PM BST

A historical radio sketch show would be fun.

I'm currently working on a docu-com idea for one of those Radio 4 15 minute slots.

I think radio is probably the best medium (other than producing your own pod-casts/You Tube skits) for trying out not-the-norm comedy ideas.

I pitched a historical sketch show a while ago. It was written for Mitchell and Webb as I can see them doing something like that.

Anyway they liked the sketches but not the concept. They said the format would be too restricting and it'd be expensive.

Sigh.

Quote: Perry Nium @ May 29 2008, 9:30 PM BST

Sad but very very true.

I pitched a historical sketch show a while ago. It was written for Mitchell and Webb as I can see them doing something like that.

Anyway they liked the sketches but not the concept. They said the format would be too restricting and it'd be expensive.

Sigh.

Perhaps if the BBC didn't waste money on those bloody cinema ads for Radio 1, then stuff like that could be made!

WESTWOOOOOOOOOOD!!!

Yeah, f**k off.

That new BBC ad for HD featuring the Antiques Roadshow cast could have funded a pilot. They really are the most wasteful blaggards ever.

My novel was rejected 4 times before I finally decided that it or I wasnt ready for it to be published and the first time I was crushed but its part and parcel of the game. You just gotta pick yourself up and move on believing in your work.

I think the differences in feedback depend on how busy the person is because some of them have so much to read that they must get incredibly frustrated. Also it depends on the person too and maybe they want you to take it as positive criticism?

Quote: Deferenz @ May 28 2008, 2:03 PM BST

I am feeling a bit bruised and battered today.

My writing partner and I sent out our pilot script to a number of prodco's in early Feb and I've just had one of them give some feedback.

Ouch! It was awful. It didn't have a good thing to say about our work. I currently feel deflated and pretty useless.

I know you have to take the rough with the smooth but the first time the rough hits it bloody hurts.

When the script was ready it went first to Marc Blake. He pointed out things he really liked and things he didn't like. He said we were very strong in certain areas and not as good in others. Fair enough. So we worked hard on the poorer parts before doing a final draft ready for sending out.

So why is it that where people like Marc Blake tell you things are really good, another set of feeback tells you the complete opposite?

I know I just need to pick myself up and continue writing but getting a knock does tend to jolt the confidence.

Def.

I sympathise bud. had a rejection from babycow today. no feedback but at least they got back to me I suppose. Remember a bit of feedback from the beeb I got once. I found it funny as they'd totally missed the point of my script calling it silly and hammy. my script was a spoof. Point missed completely by them.
Still, it hurts doesn't it? keep at it. You, me, we'll all get there. It's a marathon after all and not a sprint.

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