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How can feedback be so different? Page 5

Getting bad feedback hurts. To try and deny it is not sensible. To see a normal human reaction to rejection as unprofessional or a sign of unfitness for a writing career is very unrealistic, imo. Rejection hurts, no amount of mental training will prevent that instinctive response. That's the basis of the human psyche. If we don't hurt, then we become automatons.

But SeeFacts converse argument conceals a point (although not presented in his usual clear style) in that we as writers can use that normal (and permissible) short-term pain to our long-term advantage by spurring us to push out work to new sets of producers' eyes.

Sometimes I have dark days when I can barely function as a person BUT I accept that these times come and go with little ability on my behalf to prevent those 'moments'. However even in the worst periods, I still write and produce work that will become the basis of a new project. I want writing to be my career, so like all jobs I produce whether I feel like it or not.

There I think is the key to determining whether writing is the job for a person. Not the length of time that you experience pain over a rejection but whether, even in your worst moments, you can be found writing then you are a writer, however successful or unsuccessful the world views you.

Quote: SlagA @ May 28 2008, 11:14 PM BST

Getting bad feedback hurts. To try and deny it is not sensible. To see a normal human reaction to rejection as unprofessional or a sign of unfitness for a writing career is very unrealistic, imo. Rejection hurts, no amount of mental training will prevent that instinctive response. That's the basis of the human psyche. If we don't hurt, then we become automatons.

But SeeFacts converse argument conceals a point (although not presented in his usual clear style) in that we as writers can use that normal (and permissible) short-term pain to our long-term advantage by spurring us to push out work to new sets of producers' eyes.

Sometimes I have dark days when I can barely function as a person BUT I accept that these times come and go with little ability on my behalf to prevent those 'moments'. However even in the worst periods, I still write and produce work that will become the basis of a new project. I want writing to be my career, so like all jobs I produce whether I feel like it or not.

There I think is the key to determining whether writing is the job for a person. Not the length of time that you experience pain over a rejection but whether, even in your worst moments, you can be found writing then you are a writer, however successful or unsuccessful the world views you.

Where've you been of late, you big mad Welsh man?

You're not on the board as much!

To clarify my earlier point. I'm not saying deny the pain - of course it hurts - but you've just got to ignore it. You've got to learn to have confidence.

The OP is lucky to have a writing partner. I, like many, don't. At least you've got someone to say 'Well, I liked your bits and you liked my bits (oo-er) so that's fine.' I just have to look in a mirror, Gareth Cheeseman style.

Remember Seefacts, there are two types of people in this world, there are winners and thats me and thats obvious and there are losers....

Anyway your four-letter response to Marc P's post earlier in this thread (which didn't even slag off your work) doesn't strike me as the reaction of someone who dismisses criticism with a philosophical shrug.

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I react to people saying 'Well, what you've done was a piece of piss'. That's what I react negatively too.'
''

Well if that was what I said you have every right to call me a c**t. Not a word I use lightly myself but hey I believe in freedom of speech and expression. Can't see, mind, where I said anything of the sort.

:)

It's also important to remember that the best comedy writers were all rejected at some point. Look at Little Miss Jocelyn..I mean where would she be if she paid attention to every Prodco who told her her material was shite?

Oh.

Laughing out loud

LOL

I hope she never finds this board. :(

Quote: Marc P @ May 28 2008, 11:39 PM BST

Anyway your four-letter response to Marc P's post earlier in this thread (which didn't even slag off your work) doesn't strike me as the reaction of someone who dismisses criticism with a philosophical shrug.

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I react to people saying 'Well, what you've done was a piece of piss'. That's what I react negatively too.'
''

Well if that was what I said you have every right to call me a c**t. Not a word I use lightly myself but hey I believe in freedom of speech and expression. Can't see, mind, where I said anything of the sort.

:)

"getting a sketch credit - they're not exactly hard to get hold of."

To mean 'they're easy to get.' Well, you're wrong. Hence my annoyance.

Well the question wasn't about you exactly... and well, a sketch... seriously come on... ? I mean all TV is disposable stuff apart from the classics .. Are you Being Served and Doctor Who... I was just putting that in context of a man who's Sitcom dream had been shattered.

And saying to me you're wrong is just like calling me a c**t, you might be right but I don't like it.

But, you know, I try to be sanguine about these things.

:)

Quote: Marc P @ May 28 2008, 11:51 PM BST

Well the question wasn't about you exactly... and well, a sketch... seriously come on... ? I mean all TV is disposable stuff apart from the classics .. Are you Being Served and Doctor Who... I was just putting that in context of a man who's Sitcom dream had been shattered.

And saying to me you're wrong is just like calling me a c**t, you might be right but I don't like it.

But, you know, I try to be sanguine about these things.

:)

I was comparing them to mean 'I got told my sitcom wasn't funny but someone else thought it was and it's got me work' etc.

Not many writer's sitcoms goes straight onto the telly - it can takes many years, and lots criticism, before it can see the light of day. They'll be more hurdles than that to face with a sitcom script.

I'm sorry for the language, but I felt it was unnecessary what you said to me.

I don't want hard feelings, because that's silly. So my apologies there, but I think in context I made a good point.

Well I'll return that apology in the spirit it was given and I have genuinely no hard feelings.

:)

Quote: Marc P @ May 29 2008, 12:06 AM BST

Well I'll return that apology in the spirit it was given and I have genuinely no hard feelings.

:)

I wouldn't call 'Are You Being Served' a classic either, but that's for another day!

Peace breaks out! Now all we need is for Aaron to come out as a lefty and we can all go to bed happy.

Back on topic, I'm sure it's all been said, but everyone has different tastes and producers aren't exceptions. Otherwise all those shite comedies that we like to moan about wouldn't have been made. If you know that at least some people are making stuff that makes you laugh, then some producer might well like the stuff you've written. If you're confident in it, keep going until you find the right one.

Quote: Marc P @ May 29 2008, 12:06 AM BST

Well I'll return that apology in the spirit it was given and I have genuinely no hard feelings.

:)

Get a room you two!
Angelic

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