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the first one is about 1 minute 10 seconds at most. and its so good they can use it over and over again, sure making it shorter because we know whats coming. fact is, is that its still strong as f**k.

monty pythons had loooads of feeder sketches that were forgotten, but also long ones too, they wrote so much of course stuff was going to be forgotten. but both shorts and longs are remembered by them.

as well as other sketches. people have different tastes but sketches are advised to be kept short for a reason. if the idea has one really strong twist then it can be shorter than usual, to give that twist a powerful,fast delivery which can sometimes suit better than a long build up.

This is called style, and one has never been better than the other, its all opinion. Something I have learned as a comedienne.

Quote: Kim Griffin @ May 23 2008, 9:49 PM BST

This is called style, and one has never been better than the other, its all opinion.

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Indeed it is - you have a certain style and know what it is. I offer opinions and I can only guess at where you are trying to go.

sorry, il defend comedy I dont even like to the death. As a comedienne ive watched acts I cant bear while thinking 'this is awwwfull' while I watch an audience roll around guffawing at them. All styles deserve respect. Any style you have ever heard of will have made a mark historically otherwise it wouldnt be an established style.

I appreciate the opinions about my sketch, cheers.
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Quote: Kim Griffin @ May 23 2008, 9:59 PM BST

sorry, il defend comedy I dont even like to the death. As a comedienne ive watched acts I cant bear while thinking 'this is awwwfull' while I watch an audience roll around guffawing at them. All styles deserve respect. Any style you have ever heard of will have made a mark historically otherwise it wouldnt be an established style.

I appreciate the opinions about my sketch, cheers.
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Np x

Quote: Kim Griffin @ May 23 2008, 8:36 PM BST

I actually get what you mean about repetition, it can be ok if its just for trying to make the scene look realistic but at the same time it can kill the flow.

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But its not realistic - record yourself speaking...its not how you write what you think you speak like!

Look at half the sketches in here and you'd think every starts of a conversation with "ok" or "right then" - that's not natural dialogue.

READ out what you write.

By the way, i don't like short sketches - my point is not do it quickly, take as long as you like...just do it well.

Right then. Whether you like them or not isn't the issue I've been taking an interest in M Lewis, it's about maintaining a level of respect for another style and acknowledging that they are / have been found funny by enough people to make it a widely recognizable style in it's own.

OK so in response to your repetition opinion, I won't be recording how I speak because I have real conversations with real people and several of my converations have started out with 'ok' or 'right then'. I get your point as much this time as I did the first time..

Perhaps repeating a point makes it lose its flow? I didnt appreciate as much this time.

Leaving aside The Fast Show, Benny Hill, or Harry Enfield. Most radio comedy shows are 30 seconds to a minute in length.

Also long skits can work this is a good skit, but would be punchier with a quicker conclusion.

The intro could be quite long.

In this case I totally agree.

A very good sketch, I dont know if Ive read all of the ones youve put up so far, but out of the ones I have I think this is the best so far.

Thanks very much! To be honest its not my favourite, I need to redraft most of the 2nd half but thats really nice of you.

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I get your point as much this time as I did the first time..

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No doubt, but you chose to suggest my point lack validity because you were trying to maintain realism. Having a character repeat the same word 4 times in 3 sentence's is only realistic if that characters simple. (if that was the intention then i apologise, i did not mean to mock the afflicted in anyway)

As you had said in previous posts "feel free to rip into" your sketches i thought I'd take the opportunity to clarify my point.

I quite like the idea behind the sketch. A grown man bullying children makes me chuckle (not sure what that says about me). This line...

"PETER:

(Reading the name on the book cover)

Maggie Murray. Right then, well I’m going over to Maggie’s mother now to hand it back. I’m so disappointed in you, I want you to go downstairs to the pub and I don’t want you back here till you think about what you’ve done. Go."

...seems to have so much going on in it that it left me a bit confused (easily done). It seemed to suggest that there is almost a father/son type relationship which was a new revelation (is this intended?) - that they lived above a pub (is this important?). I think all this info maybe clouds the punchline you are trying to deliver? Just a thought.

Bo.

Yeah you're right Bohannan, Im trying to put too much in to what I'm trying to make a short sketch. Good post.

M Lewis when I say rip in to, I mean as to whether its funny or not, I agree repetition can slow down the humour, but we don't always use different words in real life. Sometimes we do repeat words in a conversation- its natural. I see that judging the quality of the humour isn't where your posts are concerned unless they are involved with the language/spelling/grammar etc. If its funny its funny, if its not its not and if its not tell me why but dont drag it out. You made a point that I chose to agree with to an extent, I'm not going to be beat in to submission.

I have a few essays you can proof read instead.

Your signature pretty much sums up what you are about Kim

That and my criminal record ..