Quote: Bad dog @ May 20 2008, 2:51 PM BSTI may be wrong, but I thought the mods and members on here were all pretty easy going.
lol - where do you normally post...burma 
Embryology and abortion Page 4
Quote: roscoff @ May 20 2008, 3:11 PM BSTSilly Billy. It's Men pig soldiers as they're mostly human DNA
Quite right Ros, Stupid me. Man-Bear-Pig Soldiers ftw.
Man bear pig is real?
Quick clone Al Gore!
It will be soon thanks to 20th century super science.
Quote: Bad dog @ May 20 2008, 2:58 PM BSTYes, true. I'm not really criticising, we wouldn't want to go the way of some sites. Sometimes though it would be refreshing if people didn't go off topic. But then it is a comedy site and people fancy a bit of humour. Quite rightly.
I think if you're looking for a site where the serious topics of abortion and embryo research are debated in a serious manner, you're on a bit of a loser here. Given that no topic appears to be off-limits here for comedy and leg-pulling, this should come as no surprise.
For what it's worth, I was brought up a Catholic and took a very hard line against abortion and embryo research. When I was a kid, I was even taken on a pro-life march at Hyde Park. My opinion has softened somewhat over the years. I don't advocate a reduction in the time-limit, but I do think that abortion is seen as an easy option.
All people are an inconvenience. Just because somebody has yet to be born, it doesn't necessarily follow that their inconvenience outweighs their right to life. However, sometimes it can.
As far as embryo research is concerned, all I can say is "Bring it on." As a former comic book reader, I personally cannot wait to see humans with wings soaring through the skies, or swimmers with gills slicing through the waters.
Sometimes, though, I do feel that people are starting threads and their genuine questions/opinions are sidelined a bit too quickly by general chit-chat and comedy. But then it is a comedy site, and even the general discussion section is part of that.
There is always the option of bringing the topic back on track yourself though.
So, if your gf or yourself got pregnant, you're just not ready to have a child, not enough financial support etc, would you STILL keep the child?
Is this question to Bad dog or open to the house?
I'm steering this back on topic...anyone can answer.
Quote: EllieJP @ May 20 2008, 3:40 PM BSTThere is always the option of bringing the topic back on track yourself though.
So, if your gf or yourself got pregnant, you're just not ready to have a child, not enough financial support etc, would you STILL keep the child?
I think the financial support aspect is less of an issue today. Mothers are given £500, to be put in a trust fund, just for having a baby these days
Quote: EllieJP @ May 20 2008, 3:44 PM BSTI'm steering this back on topic...anyone can answer.
Ok, well at the end of the day it's up to the Mrs. Her body etc. But in those circumstances, no.
Quote: EllieJP @ May 20 2008, 3:46 PM BSTI certainly couldn't afford to keep a child at the moment. I'd have to move back home and sponge off my Mum and Step-Dad. I don't want to bring up my child in an environment which isn't happy and where we're literally scraping to survive.
Quite.
Quote: Alan Cornforth @ May 20 2008, 3:44 PM BSTI think the financial support aspect is less of an issue today. Mothers are given £500, to be put in a trust fund, just for having a baby these days
I certainly couldn't afford to keep a child at the moment. I'd have to move back home and sponge off my Mum and Step-Dad. I don't want to bring up my child in an environment which isn't happy and where we're literally scraping to survive.
Abortion is like those stupid croc shoes.
Banning is silly, counterproductive, and an unfair imposition of values.
You need to win the argument, about education, and offering alternatives.
People don't have abortions for fun, or life style choices, and it is not a place for religious values to hold sway.
If one handled issues of sex education, poverty etc. Then there would be less demand for it.
I would be against termination, and would do what I could to not have that happen. Ultimately, it would have to be down to the woman.
Also, it's probably one of the toughest things anyone has to face, so no answer is right/wrong for everyone.
Quote: EllieJP @ May 20 2008, 3:40 PM BSTThere is always the option of bringing the topic back on track yourself though.
So, if your gf or yourself got pregnant, you're just not ready to have a child, not enough financial support etc, would you STILL keep the child?
Interesting piece in Sunday's Observer magazine about Iceland. Over there people have children younger. In Reyjavik University, it's very common to see pregnant students. The attitude there is "So I have to put off graduating for a year? So what? It's not like my life's over."
It's all here if you can be bothered, but basically it's largely a supportive society where kids aren't seen as an inconvenience. Over here there's a feeling that, if you've got a bun in the oven, you're on your own, mate. Should have been more careful.
Abortion is the easy option. Not for women who have them - nobody would make that decision lightly - but for society, which doesn't have to help the struggling mother out.
Mmm, bun.