Mark Speight then Page 8

Quote: chipolata @ April 14 2008, 10:27 AM BST

I have a sneaking admiration for people who kill themselves rather than just whining about how unhappy they are. People like Robbie Williams and Britney spears would go up in my estimation if they blew their brains out rather than just whinging constantly.

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Kind of against our biology that's why.

Someone has to be in a f**ked up mental state to kill themselves - putting aside humans who wanted to sacrifice themselves thousands of years ago ect.

(Awaits some sort of backlash)

I was really talking about celebrities, some of whom have turned victim-hood into a career option.

Quote: Graham Bandage @ April 14 2008, 10:12 AM BST

*Travellers. If you're English. Travelers, if you're American. Or Canadian.

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Thanks, I wasn't sure (particularly at 8:30am or whatever ungodly hour I looked).

Quote: roscoff @ April 14 2008, 9:58 AM BST

Aaron is a comedy writer but he hasn't realised it yet. I have little sympathy I'm afraid. Obviously the guys talented so he could have gone anywhere with that ability but instead he freely chose to go down the path of using drugs which over spilled into his public life in the end. He was very much a kids role model (my 2 thought he was great) but this didn't deter him from his chosen nasty habit. His free choice. Feel sorry for relatives but that's as far as it goes for me.

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That's all true, but considering that it wasn't the drugs that killed HIM (not directly anyway), still nothing? To use an old cliché, it really seems like he died of a broken heart.

Quote: EllieJP @ April 14 2008, 10:19 AM BST

What, like 10% are...

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I've never attempted to work it out.

Quote: chipolata @ April 14 2008, 10:27 AM BST

I have a sneaking admiration for people who kill themselves rather than just whining about how unhappy they are. People like Robbie Williams and Britney spears would go up in my estimation if they blew their brains out rather than just whinging constantly.

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Quote: chipolata @ April 14 2008, 10:33 AM BST

I was really talking about celebrities, some of whom have turned victim-hood into a career option.

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Liverpool...

Quote: Rebecca Davies @ April 14 2008, 2:39 AM BST

but can we not laugh about someone dying?
sorry guys. i dont want to be the one to ruin all the jokes, i know we are meant to be comedy writers. but there is a difference between the ability to keep a sense of humour, and spitting on someone elses life.

i'm really not trying to have a go, its just this news has hit a raw never. death has a funny way of doing that, however indirectly related.

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I can joke about it: I HAVE to joke about it! You see the more I read the more I was traumatised by memory and I reserve the right to express it in any way I need to. There is no offence intended. Note how lots of the people who made jokes also expressed affection and sadness.

You see, just the day after she was found in the bath I had a vaguely similar experience: I was called by a distraught neighbour to a woman of the same age, also in the bath and had to deal with it.

You don't need the details but you're right it wasn't funny - That's why I WILL joke about it cos I did enough uncontrolled but probably very helpful crying at the time.

Thanks.

Quote: Graham Bandage @ April 14 2008, 10:12 AM BST

*Travellers. If you're English. Travelers, if you're American. Or Canadian.

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Foiled again! Next time Aaron next time!

Quote: Aaron @ April 14 2008, 11:29 AM BST

Liverpool...

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Boris, is that you?

Quote: thing @ April 14 2008, 2:03 AM BST

Me too.

Whatever got removed isn't important - where was Aaron on the usual spell check!

It's ''Perineum'' or sometimes, excusably pereneum.

Doh, call yourself a writer? !

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I removed my post because I'd got annoyed with all the gags about Speight's death. And then I realised I was just overtired and would regret venting my spleen in the morning. So I removed it.

And yes, I do call myself a writer. I'm one of the few people that can actually say they do it for a living.

Can you?

Quote: Graham Bandage @ April 14 2008, 12:11 PM BST

Boris, is that you?

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If only!

Apart from the affairs thing, obviously.

Anyway. Here is Paddington. At Paddington.

Lol@ the bloke on the left. "WTF is ee doing?!".

Indeed. One would have thought he'd be aware he was sitting on a statue plinth. Tit. It's like people at King's Cross wondering why people are taking photos of half a trolley sticking from a wall!

Quote: Perry Nium @ April 14 2008, 12:17 PM BST

And yes, I do call myself a writer. I'm one of the few people that can actually say they do it for a living.

Can you?

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Is this some kind of ''so there nnmmnerrr!'' thing cos Whoop-whoopity whoop, big up you.

No, I'm not a writer (clearly) and neither do I aspire to be. Our only similarity is that we share an interest in the same part of the human anatomy.

Quote: Perry Nium @ April 14 2008, 12:17 PM BST

I removed my post because I'd got annoyed with all the gags about Speight's death. And then I realised I was just overtired and would regret venting my spleen in the morning. So I removed it.

And yes, I do call myself a writer. I'm one of the few people that can actually say they do it for a living.

Can you?

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Hey I'm a professional writer and do it for a living. I'm just lucky I have a reasonably well paid hobby as a care manager.

As for the jokes and taste etc. Been thinking about this. Comedy writing is an art, an act of creating iconic objects/performances to express a meaning etc.

My area of artistic endeavor is comedy. No one would question my expressing my view on painful subjects if I was a poet, a painter, or a sculptor.

I get more than a little cranky, about the self censorious attitude that is derigeur on this site.

If you write comedy as an expression on life, or your views, or what ever, then yo're an artist, maybe not a very good one.

That said on this page, there's been some in my view, deeply unfunny, and quite pointless jokes about this poor guy.

And frankly for all the whining about drugs. Grow up lots of people take drugs (inlcuding current, and probable future US presidents). And don't cause the slightest problem.

Current drug laws needlessly criminalise people, and waste billions in tax revenue that could be collected.

Quote: sootyj @ April 14 2008, 1:16 PM BST

Hey I'm a professional writer and do it for a living. I'm just lucky I have a reasonably well paid hobby as a care manager.

As for the jokes and taste etc. Been thinking about this. Comedy writing is an art, an act of creating iconic objects/performances to express a meaning etc.

My area of artistic endeavor is comedy. No one would question my expressing my view on painful subjects if I was a poet, a painter, or a sculptor.

I get more than a little cranky, about the self censorious attitude that is derigeur on this site.

If you write comedy as an expression on life, or your views, or what ever, then yo're an artist, maybe not a very good one.

That said on this page, there's been some in my view, deeply unfunny, and quite pointless jokes about this poor guy.

And frankly for all the whining about drugs. Grow up lots of people take drugs (inlcuding current, and probable future US presidents). And don't cause the slightest problem.

Current drug laws needlessly criminalise people, and waste billions in tax revenue that could be collected.

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Poets, painters and sculptors aren't pointing fingers and laughing at someone who's just committed suicide. People can bang on forever about their right to express their views via the medium of comedy, but I wonder if your view would remain the same if your brother / sister had just topped themselves and I turned up to the funeral wearing a clown suit to throw custard pies at the coffin.

And the point I was making about being a professional writer was aimed solely at "thing", who suggested that my deleted post wasn't important, then asked me the question. "Call yourself a writer?"

Anyway, let's not bicker. I was merely annoyed by the levity about Speight's death. The guy's barely f**king cold for Christ's sake.

I dunno, it's pretty draughty around there...

Sorry. Yeah. I largely agree. Making an amusing remark to try and make some light of a situation is one thing, but some of the jokes have been a bit out of taste even for my liking. And that makes me very uncomfortable, to be feeling uncomfortable. So don't anger me! *shakes fist*

Ditto Aaron!

There's a line.

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Don't cross it!