So I would say "stop being such a bellend" or "you're a bellend"? 
I'm going to use that one.
Mr. Belchamber should start his own club named after himself. I have a feeling it could be a popular site for a certain crowd that he happens to be into.
Mark Speight then Page 10
Quote: Perry Nium @ April 14 2008, 1:23 PM BSTbut I wonder if your view would remain the same if your brother / sister had just topped themselves and I turned up to the funeral wearing a clown suit to throw custard pies at the coffin.
And the point I was making about being a professional writer was aimed solely at "thing", who suggested that my deleted post wasn't important, then asked me the question. "Call yourself a writer?"
I recall making a point of going to my Dad's funeral in quite a lairy suit and an even more lairy tie. Not quite the same thing because he died naturally but for me it was important to lighten up the day in respect of a great man. Different strokes ----- etc.
I cracked a good joke in the car following the hearse too and I'm really glad I did because it helped my brothers and sisters cope on the day. At the service my sisters were half crying and half laughing as we tried to keep straight faces when singing ''Abide with me'' - - can't explain, it's an in joke.
With respect sir, at no point did I suggest that your deleted post wasn't important. I merely digressed to discuss your 'Tag' and the either deliberate or ignorant spelling of your 'pun' - then mildly teasing Aaron who has a habit of mentioning spelling, etc.
Your post seems to suggest that only you know how everyone should express themselves: You are just narrow minded because the mere fact that people have bothered to post is respect in itself and yet you can't see that. It's no different to sending flowers to a funeral: Doesn't much matter what you send, as long as you do. You do not have a monopoly on morals sir.
As I said in an earlier post, this thread actually touched me because there was some coincidence to a sad, significant experience in my life: I still can't go into detail out of respect for the family but I can express myself here and that is why this forum is such a valuable resource.
I have one last thing to say: A confession. I don't even know who Mark Speight was! Not my generation. The thread has educated me though and the interest in it is some measure of peoples' respect, including most of the jokes.
Sorry if I'm ranting again.
Quote: Aaron @ April 14 2008, 2:30 PM BSTNormal phrase is bellend (or bell-end), Curt.
He's not quite explained it fully there Curt. whether or not you are a ''bell-end'' is really dependent on you being ''Curt'', as you probably are or ''Uncurt'', as most of us are.
You see now?
Quote: thing @ April 14 2008, 3:01 PM BSTHe's not quite explained it fully there Curt. whether or not you are a ''bell-end'' is really dependent on you being ''Curt'', as you probably are or ''Uncurt'', as most of us are.
You see now?
yes? Like Bizaro is to superman!
-This post is brought to you by: Un-Thing
Quote: Curt @ April 14 2008, 3:05 PM BST
-This post is brought to you by: Un-Thing
impressive and pretty but straight over my head! ? Limited intelligence y'know.
Quote: thing @ April 14 2008, 3:01 PM BSTI recall making a point of going to my Dad's funeral in quite a lairy suit and an even more lairy tie. Not quite the same thing because he died naturally but for me it was important to lighten up the day in respect of a great man. Different strokes ----- etc.
I cracked a good joke in the car following the hearse too and I'm really glad I did because it helped my brothers and sisters cope on the day. At the service my sisters were half crying and half laughing as we tried to keep straight faces when singing ''Abide with me'' - - can't explain, it's an in joke.With respect sir, at no point did I suggest that your deleted post wasn't important. I merely digressed to discuss your 'Tag' and the either deliberate or ignorant spelling of your 'pun' - then mildly teasing Aaron who has a habit of mentioning spelling, etc.
Your post seems to suggest that only you know how everyone should express themselves: You are just narrow minded because the mere fact that people have bothered to post is respect in itself and yet you can't see that. It's no different to sending flowers to a funeral: Doesn't much matter what you send, as long as you do. You do not have a monopoly on morals sir.
As I said in an earlier post, this thread actually touched me because there was some coincidence to a sad, significant experience in my life: I still can't go into detail out of respect for the family but I can express myself here and that is why this forum is such a valuable resource.
I have one last thing to say: A confession. I don't even know who Mark Speight was! Not my generation. The thread has educated me though and the interest in it is some measure of peoples' respect, including most of the jokes.
Sorry if I'm ranting again.
I obviously misunderstood the intent behind your "not important" comment, so apologies for that.
Not sure what happened at your dad's funeral is relevant though. It's one thing attempting to lighten the mood at a close relative's funeral, but quite another to do so at a stranger's.
If you think I'm being "narrow-minded" in objecting to what I see as crass attempts to squeeze humour out of a recent and tragic death, then that's your
opinion and you're entitled to it.
As am I to mine.
Quote: Aaron @ April 14 2008, 12:57 PM BSTAnyway. Here is Paddington. At Paddington.
Quote: Aaron @ April 14 2008, 1:01 PM BST
Cooooooooool!!
Thanks, Aaron!
Anyone had the "right" to make jokes about anything. However, don't be suprised to be criticised if you exercise that "right". My uncle, a really funny bloke, committed suicide years ago due to mental illness. Thank God he wasn't well-known, eh? I just think it's very unkind to have a personal tragedy (and a family tragedy) reduced to weak, crass jokes, which are then immortalised on the internet. Just my opinion, mind...
I'm from Liverpool. I'm staying well out of this one.
Quote: Graham Bandage @ April 14 2008, 3:56 PM BSTI'm from Liverpool. I'm staying well out of this one.
You and Billy Connelly eh?
Quote: Perry Nium @ April 14 2008, 3:47 PM BSTthat's your
opinion and you're entitled to it.As am I to mine.
Agreed. Thanks for the reply.
I just still think that people express themselves in different ways. Some of the jokes were of dubious taste, I agree, but that is just how some people cope.
I don't think you can realistically infer that you have a greater respect just because you deal with it differently.
The point about my Father's funeral was that it helped break the tension on the day and that is all I see people trying to do here: Most clearly also indicated some emotion.
I respect that you view the event in your own way and you are welcome to but it is not everyone's way.
Regards.
Every subject, must always been open for jokes.
Even if as in this case, I found the jokes dreadful on this site, and a lot of sympathy for Mr SPeight.
It throws open two big issues for me,
1 The dangerous hypocrisy of how many CBBC and CBeebies are heavy drug users. Whilst the stations them selves parrot the gouvernments pretty idiotic drugs message (gosh dope might make you spew up, shock horror!)
2 Mark was typical of the affluent, functional drug user, who slid effortlessly into their darker effects. There's plenty of people out there who as long as they can afford high quality substances, are utterly oblivious to their darker effects. Till as in his case they have a very nasty wake up call.
Not joking, is not talking, and not talking is tolerating a deeply unsatisfactory situation
Quote: sootyj @ April 14 2008, 4:12 PM BSTEvery subject, must always been open for jokes.
Even if as in this case, I found the jokes dreadful on this site, and a lot of sympathy for Mr SPeight.
It throws open two big issues for me,
1 The dangerous hypocrisy of how many CBBC and CBeebies are heavy drug users. Whilst the stations them selves parrot the gouvernments pretty idiotic drugs message (gosh dope might make you spew up, shock horror!)
2 Mark was typical of the affluent, functional drug user, who slid effortlessly into their darker effects. There's plenty of people out there who as long as they can afford high quality substances, are utterly oblivious to their darker effects. Till as in his case they have a very nasty wake up call.
Not joking, is not talking, and not talking is tolerating a deeply unsatisfactory situation
Sure, discussion is a healthy thing. It's just I don't feel that's anything is gained by making jokes about two families' tragedy. Every time a well-known person dies we could all write five or six predictable gags about it. And we all hear some of them. It's just that I've never heard any that have made me laugh enough to think that the humour outweighs the need to be sensitive. (Even with all the Diana jokes - and I was not part of the emotional weep-fest crowd.)
The other thing is that it was different in the days before the internet. Jokes were passed on by word-of-mouth mainly. Now if you post an offensive (or God forbid) unfunny joke, unlesss you've got a particulary zealous administrator to delete it, it's there forever.
Jokes are the bearded axe wheeling nut cases of public debate. They kick open the door, for the rest of the discussion.
I'd hate it if the drug debate was buried with Mark.
Quote: Tim Walker @ April 14 2008, 4:27 PM BSTIt's just that I've never heard any that have made me laugh enough to think that the humour outweighs the need to be sensitive.
I still love the old Maddie corker:
What do Madeleine McCann and a submarine have in common?
They're both at least six foot under, and full of semen.
See, that still makes me laugh.
Which is why, although the Speight jokes have been unpleasant and I haven't enjoyed them, I wouldn't ever complain about them, because I don't want to be a hypocrite. (About this at least...)