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This reminds me of Bill Hicks' line. 'Any advertisers in? (cheers) Kill yourself.' Laughing out loud (I whole heartedly agree with Bill hicks btw)

sorry, who is this "boosh"?

Quote: Mike Greybloke @ March 20, 2008, 11:52 PM

They've paid an advertising agency to design the ad, and very blatantly stolen a song (the Boosh "Soup" one) and changed the words.

Gotta disagree. Don't confuse a 'style' with song plagiarism. The soup song has a different inner rhythm and there's no comparable melody, as far as I can tell. If you can point to a moment where the melodies coincide then I'd agree that the Monster gets what he deserves. Otherwise, it's fair game. Or else no new musical style (or any other creative art) would take off if the 'originator' (I use that in a nonsensical manner as there is no true originator in the arts) could sue follow-up bands / artists as ripping them off.

For blatant rip-off play Jam's 'Start' straight after Beatles' 'Taxman'. It's uncannily alike but it didn't go to court even though the music backing is identical, the bass line and rhythm guitars are playing the same song and musically they 'sound' identical. The factor being the vocal lines were different. Stranglers sued Manics for ripping off 'Duchess' but they took the whole of the verse note-for-note, and conversely Manics 'Roses in the Hospital' is a musical rewrite of Bowie's 'Sound and vision' - similar drums and guitar textures but they didn't get sued for this because the vocal lines varied. Harrison got sued from 'My Sweet Lord' vocal sharing the melody of Chiffon's 'He's so fine' as they could demonstrate note-for-note similarity. But suing someone for an unaccompanied rap that 'sounds' like another unaccompanied rap (rather than lifts musical notes) is dubious legal ground, as far as I'm aware.

So unless you can point to a shared melody, two guys rapping short nonsense lyrics in time (although it may be derivative of a style) isn't really plaigiarism.

:P

Bloody Hoody Advertisers. Lazy Bastards.
I hate the Honey Monster anyway. Always have done. He is one Ugly Bastard!

Watching the Boosh tonight, I'd forgotten the whole 'someone else stealing their crimps thing' happened in an actual episode!

How amusing.

But the best bit was when there was a nother moon and it was eaten by Jupiter Laughing out loud

I agree with SlagA above aswell as, I think I said this earlier, their argument would only work if it was a trademark e.g. a graphic or sign.

Well, we shall have to see how it pans out!

Must agree with Slagothy here. The Boosh boys don't have a leg to stand on, and would be laughed out of court with this. Anyone who tries to claim that it isn't a shameless rip off is kidding themselves. Yes, I'd probably be a bit pissed off if I was them, but as has been pointed out, it's a style that's been copied and not any one song individdually. The music industry - and creative industry/ies as a whole - is built on copies and imitations.

P.S. Thread moved.

But the boosh have got hundreds of angry modwolves on their side, and sugarpuffs have a couple of people who eat cereal.

And fans of oddball comedies are notorious for their ability to overcome British law...

As long as nobody believes it's a coincidence, and everyone is aware they did actually copy the style/song whatever, I'm happy.
Even if that is perfectly legal, and they do get laughed out of court.

I'd like to know if Sugar Puffs are admitting they were 'influenced' by the Boosh, or if they're claiming coincidence.

Quote: Aaron @ March 23, 2008, 11:55 AM

And fans of oddball comedies are notorious for their ability to overcome British law...

Laughing out loud Is that a reference to Heather Mills?

There's an aspect of many different things in there. ;)

Quote: Aaron @ March 23, 2008, 11:55 AM

And fans of oddball comedies are notorious for their ability to overcome British law...

The Hunny Monster will get all scared and back down! (yes, my version of reality is ever so slightly different to the common view on reality)

Laughing out loud

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