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Tony Kirwood - 'Write Your First Sketch' Course

I attended the above course in London yesterday. I’d found out about it from sitcom.co.uk

It was an introduction to writing your first sketch. I know that I’ve been sketchwriting for some time, but it’s only ever been what my interpretation of what a sketch is. This course was to hammer home the basics.

It was a good day. There were 15 of us on the course. Not many had actually put pen to paper before as regards comedy writing, but one man there had had a picture/caption piece in Private Eye just before Christmas.

Tony stressed the use of mindmapping aka brainstorming. It’s not a technique I’ve used before, but I shall certainly use it again. You give yourself more possibilities that way. It would be particularly useful for competitions where you get asked to write on a specific topic.

He also had some good advice about submitting material. He said that it’s best to send one batch of sketches off to a producer, then 2 weeks later send another batch and then send another batch 2 weeks later. That way your name will get recognised.

Unfortunately, he did say that your work can easily get stolen when you send it off. It’s practically impossible to prove this though.

Another point he made was that you won’t make your fortune writing sketches. You need a hit sitcom for that. He said that you should get around £100 for a radio sketch. As regards TV, most of his recent work has been on the continent and they pay around £300 per sketch. I think that’s quite a fair sum, but obviously you need several of these a week to be making a good wage.

In the afternoon we got down to writing our sketch (Mine can be found here: https://www.comedy.co.uk/forums/thread/4777 )

I’d certainly recommend the course for any beginner writers and anyone who hasn’t thoroughly been through the basics before.

Quote: Griff @ January 28, 2008, 11:55 AM

I got chatting to someone there who used to work on a German TV comedy sketch show, who reckoned the show was "possibly" looking for writers.

'Vee haff vays of making you laugh!'

No, Griff, he didn't mention any names. He noted that the Belgians are big fans of british writers though.

I went on Tony's 30-week 'Comedy Writing Course' a couple of years ago, and that's how I got started in this whole palaver. His mind-mapping techniques were something I was still using as recently as yesterday.

I sold my first sketch to BBC7 last year, so it does work :)

He's a good bloke and has been very helpful to me in my comedy writing career. His courses are excellent but unfortunately the longer ones can be poorly attended (mostly through lack of advertising on the part of the college -- I didn't even know there was a course until I attended in week 3!). He's emailable if you want to know when and where his next courses are, and I'm sure if there's enough interest he'd run one somewhere nearby.

Recommended.

Dan

Thanks for the review, it sounds interesting, I'll definitely think about attending one of his courses in the future. I'd heard about using mind-mapping (from someone on this forum I think) but never actually tried it.

What the hell are mind mapping techniques? Sounds kinda floopy in a Paul "Not just a baldy DJ" McKenna type way.

It's the new name from brain storming, as apparently that offending the mentally ill. I believe from my teacher sister, that mind-mapping is just as offensive and it should now be 'thought-showers', which is ridiculous...

Dan

I always organise my jokes into venn diagrams. Would anyone like to see the pie chart I created for my last sitcom :)

Hmmm. You're not taking this seriously are you Rob? personally I find the London A-Z an invaluable source of material. I wonder if Mssrs. Galton and Simpson brain stormed, mind mapped or God forbid, thought showered.

:D

Quote: Griff @ January 28, 2008, 1:19 PM

Probably not, but I guess the two of them probably sat and chucked ideas around quite a lot, which is supposedly the point of brain showering etc. By the way I prefer the old fashioned method of just chatting and writing stuff down, or scribbling in a notebook. The problem with these business-y techniques is they come with too many rules attached, which stop it being fun and turn it into work.

Yes that's the point I was making. There's nothing new under the sun but God protect us from marketing and business speak getting in everywhere. Bouncing ideas off somebody or making notes on one's own in a book or in a word file to look at lter covers most of the creative process.

I fu**ing hate fancy titles for everyday tasks but if you'll excuse me I must now return to my day job as a purveyor of ideas that influence others to part with money in return for goods - set in the context of the world of construction

Quote: Griff @ January 28, 2008, 1:27 PM

Too right. Now I must go and focus-group some sketches to increase demographic acceptance and ensure market saturation.

You'd be better off just thinking up some ideas Griff
:D :D

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