Fascism does not allow free speech
Democracy allows free speech but nobody listens.
Dictatorship by consent Paul.
Kill It Cook It Eat It! Page 7
Interesting stuff. I'm a meat eater and have no problem eating 'baby' animals as you call them. However everybody who eats meat should be shown 'Kill it cook it eat it' because they should know how there food is kept, killed and prepared. If you find all that offensive, then I suggest you become a vegetarian. Free range food is always the best and that's what me and the kids eat.
Are we forgetting however that wild animals are the most brutal carnivores of all. Male lions eating lion cubs. Polar bear mum's eating their offspring. There's more! Not very PC is it.
We tend to rap animals up in some kind of cosy blanket. Its not all Andrex puppies you know. Which are by the way very tasty with a few roasties and Bernaise sauce.
You think? I found them to be a little too gristly.
Wild animals have the right to live as nature intended they do. Farm animals don't have a choice. However I have said it is cool to eat meat. I am just after the best care, longest possible life & humane slaughter for them.
Korea eat lots of Andrex puppies
Quote: roscoff @ January 16, 2008, 11:50 PMAre we forgetting however that wild animals are the most brutal carnivores of all. Male lions eating lion cubs. Polar bear mum's eating their offspring. There's more! Not very PC is it.
That's because they don't have a local Sainsbury's or Tesco to go to for alternatives. We do.
Quote: SlagA @ January 16, 2008, 9:37 PMYep, the democrat defends the right to freedom of speech but the faschist (political / religious / scientific / racial / add your own category) always refutes that right and so democracy is the ideology that is inherently predisposed to fail when confronted by uncompromising will.
I think I understood that SlagAcrates 
While the welfare of the animals I eat is important I find what the producers put into the food just as troublesome. Especially after watching that Jamie Oliver thing yesterday. Bloody Campaign TV 
Quote: Eat_My_Shirts @ January 17, 2008, 12:25 AMThat's because they don't have a local Sainsbury's or Tesco to go to for alternatives. We do.
The polar bear that recently ate her young was in a zoo. She had basically Tesco's delivering to her door!
Just for £5!
Quote: Charley @ January 16, 2008, 10:59 PMMarion has an enigmatic passion for animals which I believe should be applauded.
Hear, hear. Anyone with a passion in their life should be admired. As long as that passion doesn't involve high explosives. Not a reference to animal rights people, btw, but to certain other 'passionate' individuals within modern society.
Quote: roscoff @ January 16, 2008, 11:50 PMAre we forgetting however that wild animals are the most brutal carnivores of all.
Nope, not forgotten. But then you don't see lions keeping zebras in filthy pens, herding them onto trucks, driving them across a continent without food and water and slaughtering them wholesale. At least some of the animals on the Serengeti will die of old age, which is more than can be said for the farm animals who will be pumped full of crap to meet a guaranteed death.
Frankly, if I'm not comfortable killing it, I'm not comfortable eating it.
Quote: SlagA @ January 17, 2008, 10:06 AMAs long as that passion doesn't involve high explosives. Not a reference to animal rights people, btw, but to certain other 'passionate' individuals within modern society.
Quote: EllieJP @ January 17, 2008, 9:57 AMJust for £5!
But did they get their clubcard points. Me thinks not?
Quote: SlagA @ January 17, 2008, 10:06 AMHear, hear. Anyone with a passion in their life should be admired. As long as that passion doesn't involve high explosives. Not a reference to animal rights people, btw, but to certain other 'passionate' individuals within modern society.
But I loved playing with those explosives. They went "Ker BOOOOOOOOOOOOM"
Nope, not forgotten. But then you don't see lions keeping zebras in filthy pens, herding them onto trucks, driving them across a continent without food and water and slaughtering them wholesale. At least some of the animals on the Serengeti will die of old age, which is more than can be said for the farm animals who will be pumped full of crap to meet a guaranteed death.
Very well said!
Quote: David Bussell @ January 17, 2008, 10:32 AMFrankly, if I'm not comfortable killing it, I'm not comfortable eating it.
Does that mean you are veggie, David, or you own a slaughterhouse? 
That's interesting actually. If I had to kill my own meat, I would wuss out and blub.
Another point. One of the reasons I'm okay with animals as food is simply my dog Molly. Meat is a large part of her diet. I don't like the idea of trying to feed her tofu, etc. Our bodys are designed to be able to go without one or the other, hers is not. She doesn't get dog food, she gets free range chicken so I'm not giving her pig butt cheeks, etc. It's better for her. Being a veggie, I would have had to think about what I would have fed her. I wouldn't even have her because that question would have come up. I would have probably stuck to hamsters.
Quote: RubyMae - Glamourous Snowdrop at large. @ January 19, 2008, 10:08 PMOur bodys are designed to be able to go without one or the other
Really? Or do we just make them cope?
Quote: Aaron @ January 19, 2008, 10:14 PMReally? Or do we just make them cope?
Actually you could be right!