Hey AJP29, do you wear a wristband that says "MAKE POVERTY HISTORY" on it?
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Quote: Eat_My_Shirts @ January 8, 2008, 12:38 PMHey AJP29, do you wear a wristband that says "MAKE POVERTY HISTORY" on it?
I did have one but I gave it to the starving children of Africa.
Quote: bushbaby @ January 8, 2008, 12:38 PMAnd if it had have been produced as such, there'd have been massive demonstrations as to how it offends the Asian communities
Yea, and also Asian men, particularly the fathers have very stern business heads, and wouldn't sit around on the couch scratching their arse like Jim does. And they wouldn't let their son be a layabout like Anthony. This is of course a stereotypical view of an Asian family, but the Royle family is a stereotypical view of a supposed northern family. So there. Making the Royle family Asian, just doesn't work.
Quote: Eat_My_Shirts @ January 8, 2008, 12:43 PMYea, and also Asian men, particularly the fathers have very stern business heads, and wouldn't sit around on the couch scratching their arse like Jim does. And they wouldn't let their son be a layabout like Anthony. This is of course a stereotypical view of an Asian family, but the Royle family is a stereotypical view of a supposed northern family. So there. Making the Royle family Asian, just doesn't work.
So if the stereotype matches then they could play the part?
Quote: Eat_My_Shirts @ January 8, 2008, 12:43 PMYea, and also Asian men, particularly the fathers have very stern business heads, and wouldn't sit around on the couch scratching their arse like Jim does. And they wouldn't let their son be a layabout like Anthony. This is of course a stereotypical view of an Asian family, but the Royle family is a stereotypical view of a supposed northern family. So there. Making the Royle family Asian, just doesn't work.
Exactly and that was my point. So having experienced the scots having a different humour to me/lancs, I would be stupid to send a sitcom up there for assessment. In the same vein, I wouldn't expect an Asian to assess my sitcom having sent it to London regardless of anyone thinking that's racist....it isn't, it makes sense, so no wonder nothing gets accepted, the humour isn't being appreciated....in this PC world
Quote: Eat_My_Shirts @ January 8, 2008, 12:32 PMThat was me, and yes I think that Scottish people aren't funny.
Armando Iannucci? End of argument right there.
Quote: bushbaby @ January 8, 2008, 7:40 AMDo you think the Royle Family would be funny had it been an Asian family/cast?
Your comedy didn't get made, stop blaming everyone else.
It would have been different. Cultures have different comedy styles, so do countries - but COUNTIES don't'.
It probably could have been funny, but also largely different due to cultural differences.
HOWEVER just because someone has a non-English name, doesn't mean they don't know about the humour or culture of this country.
What next - Armando Iannucci can't be funny as he might well be of Italian decent?
Quote: bushbaby @ January 8, 2008, 8:12 AM
Perhaps Shameless would be a better example
Shameless wouldn't be funny whoever was in it.
Quote: bushbaby @ January 8, 2008, 12:27 PMbut you joked about one ignorant remark
Many years ago there was a childrens' talent show on Blackpool pier called the Uncle Peter's. My daughter who was then 8 years old did a comedy stand-up act that she had written herself. The audience loved it and she won the heat. She was in the finals two weeks later. She died on stage as hardly anyone chuckled, never mind laughed. Reason? On the first heats it was lancashires two weeks summer holiday period. At the finals it was the scottish two weeks hols. Different sense of humour, not that the scottish don't have any. Same with Asians and Vietnamese, different sense of humour, yet one theory is supposedly racist, whilst the other isn't.
Or maybe it was BECAUSE SHE WAS EIGHT AND THEREFORE SHIT! You're even bitter that no one saw the comedy genius of your kid. She was probably beaten by a cute kid singing a Kylie Minogue. Jesus . . .
Quote: bushbaby @ January 8, 2008, 12:53 PM
Wrong.
Mine's up there, it's liked. You're the most bitter writer on this forum it seems.
Appreciated humour? 'Oh, no one can see my GENIUS'. Yes, good attitude. How about write something good, and stop flogging something you wrote when the Tories were in power?
Quote: Eat_My_Shirts @ January 8, 2008, 12:32 PMThat was me, and yes I think that Scottish people aren't funny.
You were doing so well . . .
Scottish people ARE funny. Simple as that. They've got a better current crop of comedy writers and actors than we have.
Quote: Martin Holmes @ January 8, 2008, 1:24 PMArmando Iannucci? End of argument right there.
I did like Armando Ianucci, until I found out that he was involved in those recent Post Office TV adverts. Dear oh dear...
But before that, despite being Scottish, you did think he was funny?
Quote: Eat_My_Shirts @ January 8, 2008, 1:35 PMI did like Armando Ianucci, until I found out that he was involved in those recent Post Office TV adverts. Dear oh dear...
Bah! Sell out!
Quote: Seefacts @ January 8, 2008, 1:29 PMYour comedy didn't get made, stop blaming everyone else.
It would have been different. Cultures have different comedy styles, so do countries - but COUNTIES don't'.
It probably could have been funny, but also largely different due to cultural differences.
HOWEVER just because someone has a non-English name, doesn't mean they don't know about the humour or culture of this country.
What next - Armando Iannucci can't be funny as he might well be of Italian decent?
Shameless wouldn't be funny whoever was in it.
Or maybe it was BECAUSE SHE WAS EIGHT AND THEREFORE SHIT! You're even bitter that no one saw the comedy genius of your kid. She was probably beaten by a cute kid singing a Kylie Minogue. Jesus . . .
Wrong.
Mine's up there, it's liked. You're the most bitter writer on this forum it seems.
Appreciated humour? 'Oh, no one can see my GENIUS'. Yes, good attitude. How about write something good, and stop flogging something you wrote when the Tories were in power?
You were doing so well . . .
Scottish people ARE funny. Simple as that. They've got a better current crop of comedy writers and actors than we have.
I can't take your views seriously, and you are probably not even a writer. All you do is look for the negative in my posts. I am not arsed about my work being rejected, like other writers I just keep trying. I don't need to write I have to do.
Quote: bushbaby @ January 8, 2008, 1:41 PMI can't take your views seriously, and you are probably not even a writer. All you do is look for the negative in my posts. I am not arsed about my work being rejected, like other writers I just keep trying. I don't need to write I have to do.
Yeah, I'm a vet really.
It stems from you telling me that I don't 'get' the stuff you'd posted, and me replying by saying that's not the right attitude to be taking.
There's very little comedy I don't 'get', it's more not finding it funny. I don't need to be patronised by saying I don't get it. You probably think I'm a soft southerner too.
Then you started on this ridiculous idea that your work got rejected because it wasn't read by someone in a flat cap with a whippet by their side. They're MIGHT not be English - what do they know?!
It's not looking for negatives, it's simply replying to your points. Welcome to a discussion forum.
You say you keep trying - then why do you keep going on about this Vietnam fella?
You're hard work.
The sitcom you didn't find funny...i.e. the massage parlour one was sent to Ch4. They liked it but had enough on their plate at the time so forwarded it to the head of comedy Andy Harris at ITV. he rang me to ask had I anything else, which I didn't at the time as that sitcom was the first script intended for tv that I had written. So it was shelved until last year when on loads of poster's advise on another forum, I sent it to the beeb. They sent a usual rejection letter which was signed by an Asian. This amused me, not annoyed and it occurred to me then, how would an Asian get the humour, just as you and the scots wouldn't. Having said that, the piece must have some credibility or a bigbug like Andy harris wouldn't have wasted his time on it.
These are my views and points raised as a debate on here. You, however become personal which to be quite honest, I haven't come across on any other forum.
I relate an example of my daughter and you immediately say I am bitter about that, without even being there or knowing me. As a family we are good losers, our generation were brought up to be, in sport or any other pursuits, unlike todays molicoddled kids
Discuss guys, but keep it calm. SeeFacts, the 'daughter' section in caps was below-the-belt.
Quote: Eat_My_Shirts @ January 8, 2008, 1:35 PMI did like Armando Ianucci, until I found out that he was involved in those recent Post Office TV adverts. Dear oh dear...
So somebody does an advert and that automatically discredits any of the past work which with Iannucci is a hell of a lot of great comedy, On The Hour, The Day Today, Knowing Me Knowing You, I'm Alan Partridge, The Armando Iannucci Shows, The Thick Of It, not to mention all his various radio shows over the years.