Quote: Marc P @ December 28 2012, 10:56 AM GMTNo 'mystical'??????
He didn't claim to be Merlin or the great avenger of the Gods or any of that shit so no not overly mystical
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Oh I see that is the definition of mystical. Sorry misunderstood.
I'm not a dictionary, just gave my opinion, maybe mythical would have been better, but the main thing is I liked it
Nothing wrong with liking something.
Dr Who has so much expectation on it, that it's amazing it's as good as it is. Here and there it hits moments of brilliance 9granted not recently).
Quote: Godot Taxis @ December 27 2012, 3:07 PM GMTIt is beyond a joke.
I'll say one thing for Moffatt, this episode brought back childhood memories of watching it from behind the sofa with my fingers covering my eyes.
Yes, it was that bad.
It's interesting to compare Dr Who with Showcase and HBO whose only motivation is viewing figures. And have comparatively unlimited budgets. So Sopranos, BSG, Dexter, the Wire who don't have to worry about PSB expectations, kids or being a flagship have an easier time of it.
The question is perhaps not is Dr WHo over, but is the BBC over?
And for heavens sake stop making old Who out to be some wonderland of amazing telly. It was a jolly scifi romp with a favourite magical uncle.
Most of the stories were poor, overlong, badly written, excitedly acted and required much sympathy for its wonky effects.
Yeh it was fun, but c'mon name one absolute stand out episode or series?
Quote: sootyj @ December 28 2012, 12:55 PM GMTAnd for heavens sake stop making old Who out to be some wonderland of amazing telly.
New Who (especially Tennant) beats nearly all of Old Who hands down.
But the Matt Smith era has seen a very rapid decline in quality. The 2012 Christmas episode felt like badly-written fanfic compared to, say, the 2008 episode. Which is no surprise, as the Matt Smith plots have been very muched aimed at the fanboys.
It is ostensibly a childrens programme, my daughter loves it. I loved the Pertwee Who when I was kid, didn't like Tom Baker and stopped watching. I started watching again with my own kids and that was part of the pleasure, it was something we could watch together, there are other Science Fiction shows aimed at an older audience, the joy of who is that its a family show. I don't want it to turn into some adult version that excludes kids. It does what it says on the box, no pun intended, and long may it continue to do so.
Quote: Jinky @ December 28 2012, 1:04 PM GMTNew Who (especially Tennant) beats nearly all of Old Who hands down.
But the Matt Smith era has seen a very rapid decline in quality. The 2012 Christmas episode felt like badly-written fanfic compared to, say, the 2008 episode. Which is no surprise, as the Matt Smith plots have been very muched aimed at the fanboys.
The Tennant and eccl stone era were the tops for me
Quote: sootyj @ December 28 2012, 1:35 PM GMTThe Tennant and eccl stone era were the tops for me
I think I prefer the Matt Smith era; there are less stand out classics, but I prefer the whole tone and feel of it. And, of course, Smith is the superior Doctor.
I've gone right off Stott...
Quote: Matthew Stott @ December 28 2012, 1:38 PM GMTAnd, of course, Smith is the superior Doctor.
No way you big spastic, you're a mentalist!
Tenant and ecclestone were the best poor old smith was saddled with terrible storied by and large
At the end of waters of Mars his Dr had been such a cock I thought the captain was going to shoot him more than I can say for the others
Quote: sootyj @ December 28 2012, 6:12 PM GMTTenant and ecclestone were the best poor old smith was saddled with terrible storied by and large
It doesn't matter what stories he's had, Smith is the most Doctor-ish Doctor out of the modern three.