The Doctors Wife was a disgrace.
RTD and Moffat are slowing taking away any mystery of Doctor Who. Previous Doctors have often talked to the TARDIS, and its been commented, by companions, that the Doctor thinks the TARDIS is a living thing. Now, we know it is. The same story also said that the TARDIS chose the Doctor, and not the other way round. Thats 49 years of history changed!
Quote: Ben @ November 8 2012, 8:27 PM GMTRevelation of the Daleks is a great episode of Who and shows what Colin Baker could have done with some decent scripts.
The glass Dalek, with the man slowly turning into a Dalek inside; would they show that today..? Brilliant.
Quote: Ben @ November 8 2012, 8:27 PM GMTRevelation of the Daleks is a great episode of Who and shows what Colin Baker could have done with some decent scripts.
Except, Colin Baker doesn't do anything until part two!
Quote: Charlie Boy @ November 8 2012, 8:28 PM GMTThe Doctors Wife was a disgrace.
RTD and Moffat are slowing taking away any mystery of Doctor Who. Previous Doctors have often talked to the TARDIS, and its been commented, by companions, that the Doctor thinks the TARDIS is a living thing. Now, we know it is. The same story also said that the TARDIS chose the Doctor, and not the other way round. Thats 49 years of history changed!
Change is good; new information that can surprise and over turn what you thought you knew, or throw potential new light on things fifty years into a shows history.
According to those on set, the Cybermen do indeed have a new look in Gaiman's episode.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ November 8 2012, 8:29 PM GMTThe glass Dalek, with the man slowly turning into a Dalek inside; would they show that today..? Brilliant.
It's beautifully horrific. I wish they'd done it in the new series with Bernard Cribbins.
Quote: Charlie Boy @ November 8 2012, 8:28 PM GMTThe Doctors Wife was a disgrace.
RTD and Moffat are slowing taking away any mystery of Doctor Who. Previous Doctors have often talked to the TARDIS, and its been commented, by companions, that the Doctor thinks the TARDIS is a living thing. Now, we know it is. The same story also said that the TARDIS chose the Doctor, and not the other way round. Thats 49 years of history changed!
That kind of comment makes me sad.
Neil Gaiman is an amazing story teller a truly unique individual and for one episode he took on one of the absolute legendary scifi shows.
And his episode was beautifully poetic, a truly incredible vision of truths at the heart of Dr Who. Whilst being, funny, passionate and horrific.
To not get this episode is to open your shirt and show an empty black hole where your heart should be.
I don't think anyone else came close to getting his tremendous loneliness and the weird majesty that the series has had at it's height.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ November 8 2012, 8:33 PM GMTChange is good; new information that can surprise and over turn what you thought you knew, or throw potential new light on things fifty years into a shows history.
According to those on set, the Cybermen do indeed have a new look in Gaiman's episode.
Just as long as there's no more hairy Cybermen.
Quote: Ben @ November 8 2012, 8:34 PM GMTIt's beautifully horrific. I wish they'd done it in the new series with Bernard Cribbins.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROZammsnKLU
Certainly its an intriguing looking scene.
Albeit is it more or does the whole scene feel a bit flat. The mixture of static camera angles, intrusive music and wooden acting.
It always felt like Dr Who had some great ideas going on but some how production design and direction hampered them. I suppose in the way that sentimentality and loose story telling does these days.
I've recently decided that I find the whole Davison era rather boring apart from a few episodes.
Yeh no one would accuse of it being "high powered" it had a slow ambling charm. I sort of like watching it, but actually watching a whole series takes endurance.
Quote: sootyj @ November 8 2012, 8:58 PM GMTIt always felt like Dr Who had some great ideas going on but some how production design and direction hampered them.
And having less money and time than your average TV soap.
Quote: Ben @ November 8 2012, 9:05 PM GMTI've recently decided that I find the whole Davison era rather boring apart from a few episodes.
Yeah; there's some great ones, but a lot of very unremarkable stories.
You only have to look at The Power of Three, and realize what a poor story it was.
And Davidson never went bonkers like either of the Bakers or got all cross and shouty.
The old Dr Who was like the new one, there are classic episodes and crap ones. For Hartnell Dalek Invasion Earth and The Time Meddler. For Troughton, Tomb of the Cybermen and Web of fear. For Pertwee, the Green Death, Terror of the Autons,The Sea Devils, The Daemons and Planet of the Spiders. For Tom Baker Genesis of the Daleks, Talons of Weng Chiang and The Deadly Assassin. For Davidson Caves of Androzani and Earthshock. for Colin Baker none. For McCoy none. Personal opinion, your favourite Doctor and how well the shows have aged all count. Because Pertwee was my favourite I can name half a dozen of his I love. Some stand up, some don't, some were good then, some weren't. By the way, bring back the Ogrons I used to love them!
As I said before Pertwee was quite diferent. Earth based, the Dr having a role in a rigid structure with a much bigger and more defined supporting cast. And the Dr as a Karate chopping, gadget car driving sort of Proto Bond.
Good fun.
Albeit I do really like Ecclestone, when David Tenant had a good script and a good companion he's very hard to beat. Albeit I do love the couple of episodes where they let Ecclestone really unleash.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ November 8 2012, 9:11 PM GMTAnd having less money and time than your average TV soap.
Well that's completely true some of the Hartnell and Troughton are just shamelessly tight fisted. Ugly, clearly studio bound with the very first 10 year olds pissing about with video cameras special effects.
Killing any potential good actors and scripts could have ahd.
The Ogrons were sexy.
Quote: sootyj @ November 8 2012, 9:39 PM GMTAs I said before Pertwee was quite diferent. Earth based, the Dr having a role in a rigid structure with a much bigger and more defined supporting cast. And the Dr as a Karate chopping, gadget car driving sort of Proto Bond.
Good fun.Albeit I do really like Ecclestone, when David Tenant had a good script and a good companion he's very hard to beat. Albeit I do love the couple of episodes where they let Ecclestone really unleash.
Agree about Pertwee, Bessy, the whomobile etc Eccleston never had time to build upon his good work in the first series, it is a great shame decided to only do one series. If he hadn't been any good that would have been the end of that, I really enjoyed the short time he was there.