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Sorry, I have never watched it. I like comedy programmes.

And Doctor Who... oh wait.

Quote: Raymond Terrific @ October 1 2012, 10:18 PM BST

Yeah, I've found myself using it despite the fact there aren't four in each year. At least I don't describe a room comprising only of toilets and basins as a "bath room". And don't get me started on "rest room". Some people might like to relax and read a book while doing their business but for me the experience is nothing but pure exertion.

The word "toilet" was also originally a euphemism. In fact, most words we use for it are. Bog, loo, crapper etc.

And "water closet" is where Tom Daley lives.

http://youtu.be/XWU6XL9xI4k

Teary

Glad they didn't have it in the episode though.

Yeah.

Lord knows the episode was mawkish enough already, but given that Brian had been set up as a major character, it was a necessary piece of resolution that should have been filmed. Though preferably without the strings sawing away in the background.

Agreed.
Once you've decided to play that card you should just squeeze every bit of emotion out of it you can.
I'd have been happy to see this in.

How it would have been done

Brian stands opposite his grandson
They are both trying to shout over the soaring emotional music

Grandson holds up a card
'I'm your grandson'

Brian holds up a sign
'Fancy a f**k?'

They snog

Quote: sootyj @ October 15 2012, 11:23 AM BST

Grandson holds up a card
'I'm your grandson'

Brian holds up a sign
'Fancy a f**k?'

Laughing out loud

I'm glad this scene wasn't in the show - I mean the orginal cartoon one - not sootyj's which is brilliant. My ending - Rory and Amy fall into a cow shed and are literally milked to death.

Badumtish!

Finally watched the 'The Angels take Manhattan', whose title strangely calls to mind the David Bailey vignette 'We'll take Manhattan' that was on in January and also starred Karen Gillan.

Presumably the intention must've been to call it City of Angels and have it set in Los Angeles but the budget wasn't up to it. If not, why the genre opening of the sinister financier hiring a private detective a la The Big Sleep?

Moffat's writing has always looked like a man furnishing a flat from a skip. All the usual stuff was here - unnecessary and wasted characters, people communicating through time via unusual means, set-pieces taking the place of narrative, no proper characterisation, and two magic endings, instead of the usual one.

Most worrying of all for me is the uneven tone. What happened to the Philip Marlowe stuff that the episode opened with? Why can't Moffat write a single line of dialogue that you could identify in a blind tasting with the character it was written for? Calling the Doctor 'Raggedy man' is not characterisation. And there were so many weak puns and jaunty epithets shared out amongst the characters that it feels like the episode was co-written with Barry Cryer.

I did find the ending sad. Rory and Amy's demise featured a flashback of the young Amy sitting on her suitcase in the garden from The Eleventh Hour. It recalled a jubilant time in this thread where we thought the show was going to surpass itself and become something really fine. A lot of the magic of that episode now seems to be down to our low expectations of Matt Smith and the numinous casting of Caitlin Blackwood as the young Amelia. It wasn't Moffat. Moffat can't write for toffee.

Confirmed that Neil Gaiman will be writing the second to last episode of the series. Plus two from Moffat, two from Gatiss, Two from Neil (Luthor) Cross and one from Stephen Thompson.

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