Doctor Who... Page 877

Quote: Lazzard @ September 23 2012, 10:42 PM BST

I think I must have dropped off for a minute.
Who were the two nurses with giant arseholes for faces and why were they taking people onto the spaceship?
And why, with a trillion information gathering devices on the planet did they need a blue-faced litte girl robot?

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The weird blowjob mouthed aliens were collecting people so they could study them, which makes the use of the cubes both stupid and pointless.

The girl robot was there to watch people in hospital and guard the portal or make up the racial quotient of this week's episode or some other bullshit.

It's all about suspension of disbelief and dramatic tension.

In episodes where they get that right, then who cares? You buy into the story.

I think part of the problem is that the audience is increasingly losing faith with the show's storytelling ability. They really do need to restore confidence with a few solid stories that actually hang together and make some kind of sense at some level. Then perhaps there might be a greater willingness to suspend disbelief. I ams sure in the past I have bought into stories that were not much less nonsensical, but my goodwill is exhausted.

And the suspension of disbelief is not greatly helped by the knowing references and shit jokes. If the writers showed some belief in the world they were creating it might come more naturally to the audience.

Also season 1 newWho had gay references it also had a consistent gay character.

The idea that everyone in the Tardis is straight but horses etc are gay. Is purile.

Quote: Tursiops @ September 23 2012, 11:22 PM BST

And the suspension of disbelief is not greatly helped by the knowing references and shit jokes. If the writers showed some belief in the world they were creating it might come more naturally to the audience.

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I think the show needs more gay references, so far we've only had one per episode -

Asylum - new assistant lady said she shagged a bird
Dinosaurs - gay robots
Cowboy - gay horse
Attack of the boring cubes - lesbian wedding

These blatant and unnecessary references to sexuality in no way take me out of the story / action.

Quote: sootyj @ September 23 2012, 11:24 PM BST

The idea that everyone in the Tardis is straight but horses etc are gay. Is purile.

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Spooky.

Quote: Tursiops @ September 23 2012, 11:22 PM BST

If the writers showed some belief in the world they were creating it might come more naturally to the audience.

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It would be intertesting to know whether, given the choice, the individual writers would include "Pond Life" in their storylines, and how much of that 'arc'( God save us) is imposed from on high.
If I know writers, they'll be doing the 'happy families' stuff through gritted teeth.
45 minutes isn't long to tell a story of any depth - having to commit a good 25% and more to stuff that's not pertinent is a tough call.

Yup totally.

This show is infected with Scrappydoitis.

Quote: Lazzard @ September 24 2012, 6:31 AM BST

It would be intertesting to know whether, given the choice, the individual writers would include "Pond Life" in their storylines, and how much of that 'arc'( God save us) is imposed from on high.

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Let's just hope it's going somewhere.

While I have faith in Moff when it comes to intriguing arcs, on the face of it this is just tedious soapy nonsense.

I have to wonder how much his hand was forced by his superiors after the response to the allegedly confusing last two series.

Quote: Tursiops @ September 23 2012, 11:22 PM BST

I think part of the problem is that the audience is increasingly losing faith with the show's storytelling ability.

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Are they? I'm sure some are, but I'm not sure that this thread is entirely representative of the total audience.

It's not water cooler television for kids anymore like it used to be. And the magic wand thing is becoming almost like .... 'And then I woke up and it was all a dream. The End.'

Quote: Marc P @ September 24 2012, 9:07 AM BST

It's not water cooler television for kids anymore like it used to be.

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Didn't realise you hung around listening in on kids conversations, Marc.

Yeah I talk to kids about WHO. Don't you??

Quote: Marc P @ September 24 2012, 9:24 AM BST

Yeah I talk to kids about WHO. Don't you??

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The World Health Organisation?
Worlds. Most. Boring. Child. Molester. Ever.

Mind you they have ordered an awful lot of screwdrivers now.

Quote: Marc P @ September 24 2012, 9:24 AM BST

Yeah I talk to kids about WHO. Don't you??

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I don't like to talk to kids about anything.