and Martha's middle name was Dowee
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Lampoon is a majestic word.
Quote: Griff @ January 20 2011, 10:15 PM GMTHe probably does know more about politics than me. But his reading of lame Nu Who stories as subtle political lampoonery fails to convince.
You should hear his theories on Terry and June.
Quote: Griff @ January 20 2011, 10:15 PM GMTHe probably does know more about politics than me. But his reading of lame Nu Who stories as subtle political lampoonery fails to convince.
Hey who said subtle.
I like crude satire. And a Slitheen fart monster is about a bazillion times more satirical than the current abortion on Channel 4.
Quote: Ben @ January 20 2011, 10:13 PM GMTJust accept it, Griff. Sooty is far more politically insightful that you, or even I, could ever dream of.
You have got so bitter since Bussell got a woman.
Quote: Griff @ January 20 2011, 10:19 PM GMT*sighs and has another go at pushing on with his sitcom*
Should have done like me and write a shit load in your twenties that you can keep sending out until you die.
Quote: Steve Sunshine @ January 20 2011, 10:13 PM GMTand Martha's middle name was Dowee
It's actually double barreled with "-town-massacre"
Quote: chipolata @ January 20 2011, 10:25 PM GMTShould have done like me and write a shit load in your twenties that you can keep sending out until you die.
Unlike fine wine shit doesn't mature.
It only stinks worse.
Quote: sootyj @ January 20 2011, 10:26 PM GMTIt's actually double barreled with "-town-massacre" Unlike fine wine shit doesn't mature. It only stinks worse.
We'll have a sitcom-off one day, sooty!
*shudders*
Quote: Matthew Stott @ January 20 2011, 9:24 PM GMTThat apart, it was a pretty good re-launch episode.
The first episode should have been more about The Doctor, rather than Rose.
Quote: Charlie Boy @ January 21 2011, 1:21 PM GMTThe first episode should have been more about The Doctor, rather than Rose.
No, that's precisely why it was a success; it reintroduced the character through human eyes, just like the very first episode back in 1963. So rather than him immediately being front and centre, we (Or at least the millions new to the show)wonder who he is and what's going on. It adds mystery, which is exactly what you need to hook in the viewers. You find out about the Doctor as the companion does; it's why RTD launced the show so well and why the American TV Movie failed to please anyone apart from the fans(And not even all of them).
RTD was trying to launch the series for new fans; not just the old ones who would tune in anyway.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ January 21 2011, 1:28 PM GMTNo, that's precisely why it was a success; it reintroduced the character through human eyes, just like the very first episode back in 1963. So rather than him immediately being front and centre, we (Or at least the millions new to the show)wonder who he is and what's going on. It adds mystery, which is exactly what you need to hook in the viewers. You find out about the Doctor as the companion does; it's why RTD launced the show so well and why the American TV Movie failed to please anyone apart from the fans(And not even all of them).
RTD was trying to launch the series for new fans; not just the old ones who would tune in anyway.
100%
Quote: Matthew Stott @ January 21 2011, 1:28 PM GMTNo, that's precisely why it was a success; it reintroduced the character through human eyes, just like the very first episode back in 1963. So rather than him immediately being front and centre, we (Or at least the millions new to the show)wonder who he is and what's going on. It adds mystery, which is exactly what you need to hook in the viewers. You find out about the Doctor as the companion does; it's why RTD launced the show so well and why the American TV Movie failed to please anyone apart from the fans(And not even all of them).
RTD was trying to launch the series for new fans; not just the old ones who would tune in anyway.
The TV movie failed becasue it took so long for Paul McGann to appear.
Quote: Charlie Boy @ January 22 2011, 12:40 AM GMTThe TV movie failed becasue it took so long for Paul McGann to appear.
Yes, that was one reason. The main one was because it assumed everyone watching knew everything about the show already, completely alienating any potential new viewers in the process, and draining the idea from building much in the way of mystery. It already felt like something old as opposed to a new show; unlike the first Ep of the current version. As you say, McGann should have been The Doctor from the start, just like Eccleston was in his debut, as nice as it was for people who were already fans to see McCoy regenerating into him.
Personally, I enjoy that movie for what it was; it had a lot to enjoy. Though not the actual story, obviously.
I think Paul McGann makes a great Doctor Who. However, I don't like a large percentage of his Big Finish stories. Its not his fault. Annoying companions and terrible stories, don't help. BBC7's companion Lucie Miller is awful.
Here's a clip from the Turkish Doctor Who knock-off.