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Quote: sootyj @ 25th November 2013, 11:02 AM GMT

GODOT'S REASON THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY WAS SHITE
1
No bastard Silurian bastards, except there were bastard Silurians. Bastard trying to bastard confuse me. Bastards.

2
Daleks all clearly, f**king, gay. Exterminate, I'm a metallic, robot bummer more lilke.
Bring back hetrosexual Daleks.

3
Gallifrey not made of cardboard, f**king, bastard Timelords not wearing stupid blonde wigs like in the Warlords. Or cardboard outfits like in the Deadly Bastard Assassin.

4
No K9 what is, is Stepehen Little Miss Moffatt scared of some cyber dog mess on his immaculate set.

5
Brigadier is now a girl, doesn't have a moustache or wear a green f**king jumper.
6.....

1. Hate the Silurians - old and new. Shit monsters, shit concept.

2. Daleks are fantastic.

3. Disliked the the creation of Galifrey and timelords in the Troughton/Pertwee era. Unbelievably tedious and pointless. Only good Galifrey/timelords story is Assassin, but not because of the 'cardboard outfits', because the writer unexpectedly shows them as vain, self-serving and corrupt.

4. Hate K9. Useless invention from the era when the show was sliding towards extinction.

5. Hate the Brigadier. Possibly the most undeveloped character in TV history and the worst moustache.

Hang on a mo not so long ago you were praising the Silurians as a master piece of costume design that knocked Star Trek for six.

Also the Timelords have always been presented as self interested and aloof, if not actively corrupt. Right back to the days of the wargames when they first appeared.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/tomphillips/the-internet-has-feelings-about-the-day-of-the-doctor
Quite funny.

Quote: billwill @ 25th November 2013, 12:38 PM GMT

Looks like you have to give up watching, Godot, clearly they are not making Dr Who programs with you in mind as the audience.

Bill, I'm not slamming the programme because it's not what I want to see, that would be to echo what Moffat has done.

My problem is that it's not good enough for it's target audience and they are being short-changed.

In the way that Joe Hart recently lost his place as England goal keeper because he made lots of mistakes, Moffat has done the same and needs to leave. I've pointed out his (or the production team's) errors countless times throughout this thread, but to summarise:

Branding.
The Doctor has been rebranded as a geek, defeating his foes with technology, rather than a world-weary traveller and scientist defeating them with his mind. Hence the the skinny hipster casting of the last two Doctors and the over-use of sonic screwdrivers, psychic paper etc..

Writing.
Moffat can't write drama. He is a writer of bon mots and flinty sparring dialogue between men and women flirting with each other. He can compile set-pieces and visual coups, but is unable to integrate them into satisfying narratives. The perfect vehicle for his brittle, thin talents was coupling.

He also has literary cryptomnesia and keeps unconsciously filling his scripts with other people's ideas.

Too many companions.
An inexcusable mistake considering this issue was raised by many former producers and was a problem in the Hartnell, Pertwee and Davison eras.

Smugness.
The show is crippled by it's own sense of cleverness. One reason why it was cancelled in the eighties was because it had become very self-referential and was inaccessible to the casual viewer. Moffat really is 'killing' the show with every hour he works on it.

Quote: sootyj @ 25th November 2013, 2:04 PM GMT

Hang on a mo not so long ago you were praising the Silurians as a master piece of costume design that knocked Star Trek for six.

Also the Timelords have always been presented as self interested and aloof, if not actively corrupt. Right back to the days of the wargames when they first appeared.

You're mistaken Sooty. I never praised the silurian mask. I championed the work of john Friedlander, who was the model maker who designed the original Davros head and the Krals and Sontarans amongst others.

I actually said that his Draconian mask from the Pertwee era was a better piece of mask-making than the recent Silurian one despite being 40 years older.

TV ratings for the ep currently stand at 12 million, wonder where it will end up when we get the final figures in a week. And all those bums on seats in the pictures too. Nice.

Quote: Matthew Stott @ 25th November 2013, 4:01 PM GMT

And all those bums on seats in the pictures too. Nice.

The sort of pictures you like to look at in the privacy of your own home really doesn't need to be shared, Matthew.

"I was just trying to throw treats at the screen!"

http://metro.co.uk/2013/11/25/steven-moffat-peter-capaldi-cameo-in-doctor-who-50th-anniversary-was-the-plan-all-along-4201331/

I was talking to a young twenty year old sprog today furious that the Tom Baker cameo made no sense. He was right.

Quote: Godot Taxis @ 24th November 2013, 6:48 PM GMT

Not much point commenting since you faggots will just ignore what I say.

Moffat's writing increasingly resembles some desiccated parody of Noël Coward. It seems he cannot write anything without chucking in some brittle and affected man/woman after-dinner repartee.

And instead of a flirty, titty woman with ringlets called Riversong, we get his laziest piece of characterisation yet - a flirty, titty Elizabeth I that seems partly drawn from Ben Elton's Queenie, idiotically joking about cutting off heads.

Moffat's envisioning of the Doctor as the lover of famous historical women: Madam De Pompadour, Cleopatra and now Elizabeth I is just a projection of his own vainglorious self-image. And like the show's other big-ego producer Nathan-Turner, he has now cast an actor who actually resembles him in the role.

Peter Capaldi is a fantastic choice - but so was Matt Smith. With Moffat writing the scripts however it will still die on it's arse.

I really wish he'd just f**k off.

Hear, hear!

Quote: Shandonbelle @ 24th November 2013, 1:05 PM GMT

I think we all would have liked to see more of the old doctors but would probably have been a bit of a nightmare trying to weave them all in.

Did they really need the Zygon storyline?

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Quote: Nil Putters @ 24th November 2013, 12:55 AM GMT
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He looks like an Ood!

http://www.buzzfeed.com/paulaersly/greatest-easter-eggs-from-the-doctor-who-50th-anniver

Quote: Charlie Boy @ 25th November 2013, 7:39 PM GMT

Hear, hear!

Did they really need the Zygon storyline?

That I thought was an inspired touch; it meant the story could play tribute to the Dr Who of the 70s/80s, didn't have to focus on the rather dark/melodratic main story. Besides the Zygons are an inspired design, how many alien costumes have lasted 40 years pretty much unchanged.

Quote: sootyj @ 26th November 2013, 10:56 AM GMT

That I thought was an inspired touch; it meant the story could play tribute to the Dr Who of the 70s/80s, didn't have to focus on the rather dark/melodratic main story. Besides the Zygons are an inspired design, how many alien costumes have lasted 40 years pretty much unchanged.

David Cameron's.

He wore white tails in the Bullingdon Club.

Its the shiny skin on his egg head I was referencing.

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