Quote: ContainsNuts @ January 8, 2008, 11:01 AMExactly, you should pay a price for doing something good, that will encourage generations to come.
Better than other people paying for the price of you doing 'good'
Quote: Aaron @ January 8, 2008, 11:03 AMIf they built them, earned them, bought them, then yes.
No problem with that. Lets give all our wealth back to the slaves and colonised people who earnt it for us then 
Quote: ajp29 @ January 8, 2008, 11:03 AMBetter than other people paying for the price of you doing 'good'
Who has paid the price of Ricky's success then?
Quote: ajp29 @ January 8, 2008, 11:03 AMNo problem with that. Let's give all our wealth back to the slaves and colonised people who earnt it for us then
Bloody socialist, missing the point entirely. >_<
Quote: ContainsNuts @ January 8, 2008, 11:11 AMWho has paid the price of Ricky's success then?
I don't know. The fact that he has millions of pounds means someone has. I'm not having a go at Ricky Gervais in particular, me saying I blame Gervais for capitalism was a joke.
I just don't like people defending rich people. Especially when they talk about rights that the rich deserve just as much as we do. They don't in my opinion.
I apologise for side tracking the thread. If anyone wants to carry on this debate it'll probably be better to have it in General Discussion.
Quote: Aaron @ January 8, 2008, 11:17 AMBloody socialist, missing the point entirely. >_<
Typical Capitalist, ignoring the point entirely 
Quote: ajp29 @ January 8, 2008, 11:18 AMI just don't like people defending rich people. Especially when they talk about rights that the rich deserve just as much as we do. They don't in my opinion.
Excuse me whilst I go and post this in the irony thread.
Quote: Aaron @ January 8, 2008, 11:19 AMExcuse me whilst I go and post this in the irony thread.
Oooooooooh you are awful... but I like you
Bloody Hell that guy looks scary in Black and White
On the subject of abusing Ricky Gervais, he himself is quite happy to dish out abuse. He dismisses anybody who watches or enjoys catchphrase comedy as morons.
Quote: chipolata @ January 9, 2008, 10:59 AMOn the subject of abusing Ricky Gervais, he himself is quite happy to dish out abuse. He dismisses anybody who watches or enjoys catchphrase comedy as morons.
No... that was the fictional character he plays. Written by him and Stephen Merchant. We are not going through this again are we? 
Ricky Gervais has made it quite clear in interviews exactly what he thinks of catchphrase comedy. And that's echoed by Andy Millman. And I'd just like to add, I like Ricky Gervais a lot simply because he is quite a polarising figure. It makes the comedy scene infinitely more interesting.
Quote: chipolata @ January 9, 2008, 11:20 AMRicky Gervais has made it quite clear in interviews exactly what he thinks of catchphrase comedy. And that's echoed by Andy Millman. And I'd just like to add, I like Ricky Gervais a lot simply because he is quite a polarising figure. It makes the comedy scene infinitely more interesting.
Yeah, I know he doesn't like them but I don't think he assumes other people who watch them are morons. I've read him talk about the fact that different people have different taste. Millman is an extreme character with extreme opinions and not just a carbon copy of Gervais.
Okaaaayyyyyyy, for the sake of Zoo's sanity, let's leave it there. Some people reckon he's a twat, some people reckon he's a saint. Whether he actually believes that people who watch those kinds of mainstream comedies are morons, or whether that's a "character", we may never know.
Quote: Aaron @ January 9, 2008, 1:25 PMOkaaaayyyyyyy, for the sake of Zoo's sanity, let's leave it there. Some people reckon he's a twat, some people reckon he's a saint. Whether he actually believes that people who watch those kinds of mainstream comedies are morons, or whether that's a "character", we may never know.
Maybe it would be diplomatic to call him Saint Twat?
Anybody keen to distinguish between gervais' views and those of his Millman persona might like to consider the way 'Extras' went from being about an actor trying to get a line in a show (ie, nothing like Gervais) to being about a sitcom writer frustrated by the incompetence and low standards of those around him (very like Gervais).
The first series of Extras is interesting because Millman isn't Brent and he isn't Gervais and the relationship between him and Maggie is very well done - though bizarrely completely without sexual tension.
As the first series ended it seems clear that they ran out of steam and drew too closely on their own lives and experiences. A big mistake. Write what you know is all very well, but Shakespeare didn't write many plays about a bald bloke living in a theatre, did he?
