Quote: Aaron @ December 21 2008, 8:03 PM GMTBuckaaaaaaaaaaaaaaak.
Those Japanese and their weird sexual kinks ...
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Quote: Ben @ December 21 2008, 8:09 PM GMTDo you milk her? Or does she 'milk' you?
She milks me - financially.
I used to keep chickens.
I am eating Cadbury's Caramel right now, to console myself for missing a party.
Quote: Aaron @ December 21 2008, 8:03 PM GMTBuckaaaaaaaaaaaaaaak.
We'll get a poiple one, my love.
Score!
Quote: Aaron @ December 21 2008, 8:03 PM GMTHomeowner association...?
Most new residential developments in the U.S. come with an association and a bunch of rules. Some are more strict than others, but they generally aim to keep the neighborhoods clean, orderly and desirable. They have to approve building modifications, for example.
You usually pay monthly dues which are used to maintain the public areas (parks, swimming pools) and, if it's a gated community, the streets.
Here's a copy of my association documents if you'd like to see just how picky they can be:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/47zbpp
An excerpt:
No animals, reptiles, livestock, poultry or birds of any
kind shall be raised, bred or kept on any Lot except that dogs, cats or other household
pets may be kept, not to exceed a total of two (2) such animals, provided that they are
not kept, bred or maintained for any commercial purpose The foregoing limitation on
number of pets shall not apply to hamsters, small birds, fish or other constantly caged
animals, nor shall it apply to require the removal of any litter born to a permitted pet
prior to the time that the animals in such litter are three (3) months old Horses,
reptiles, ponies, goats, sheep, hogs, pigs, monkeys, chickens, ducks, peacocks, pigeons,
guinea fowl, all feline animals, except domesticated cats, and exotic animals (such as
llamas, emus, pot belly pigs, raccoons, cheetahs) shall not be deemed as household pets
and are expressly prohibited If any animal may, in the sole discretion of the Board,
endanger the health, make objectionable noise, or constitute a nuisance or
inconvenience to the Owners of other Lots or Lots, such animal shall be removed upon
request of the Board If the owner of such animal fails or refuses to honor such request
of the Board, the animal may be removed at the direction of the Board The cost and
expense of such removal, shall be the sole responsibility of the owner of the animal
removed Such cost and expense shall attach to and become part of the Assessment
and be secured in the manner described in Article VII of this Declaration
Quote: DaButt @ December 21 2008, 8:29 PM GMTHere's a copy of my association documents if you'd like to see just how picky they can be:
Are these associations autocratic, democratic or something else?
Quote: DaButt @ December 21 2008, 8:29 PM GMTMost new residential developments in the U.S. come with an association and a bunch of rules. Some are more strict than others, but they generally aim to keep the neighborhoods clean, orderly and desirable. They have to approve building modifications, for example.
You usually pay monthly dues which are used to maintain the public areas (parks, swimming pools) and, if it's a gated community, the streets.
Here's a copy of my association documents if you'd like to see just how picky they can be:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/47zbpp
An excerpt:
No animals, reptiles, livestock, poultry or birds of any
kind shall be raised, bred or kept on any Lot except that dogs, cats or other household
pets may be kept, not to exceed a total of two (2) such animals, provided that they are
not kept, bred or maintained for any commercial purpose The foregoing limitation on
number of pets shall not apply to hamsters, small birds, fish or other constantly caged
animals, nor shall it apply to require the removal of any litter born to a permitted pet
prior to the time that the animals in such litter are three (3) months old Horses,
reptiles, ponies, goats, sheep, hogs, pigs, monkeys, chickens, ducks, peacocks, pigeons,
guinea fowl, all feline animals, except domesticated cats, and exotic animals (such as
llamas, emus, pot belly pigs, raccoons, cheetahs) shall not be deemed as household pets
and are expressly prohibited If any animal may, in the sole discretion of the Board,
endanger the health, make objectionable noise, or constitute a nuisance or
inconvenience to the Owners of other Lots or Lots, such animal shall be removed upon
request of the Board If the owner of such animal fails or refuses to honor such request
of the Board, the animal may be removed at the direction of the Board The cost and
expense of such removal, shall be the sole responsibility of the owner of the animal
removed Such cost and expense shall attach to and become part of the Assessment
and be secured in the manner described in Article VII of this Declaration
I have a histarical(Historical) association. I refused to pay the membership. I bought my house free and clear not from them. I do follow the rules on the preservation but will not join. They sent me letter and I had to go to government meeting. At the meeting I stood strong on not joining. I gave my reasons and the people voted 6 to 1 for me.
They say I get no fancy sign to have on my house now. I said.......okay! If I want one I will make me own
Quote: Geoff Mutton @ December 21 2008, 8:42 PM GMTAre these associations autocratic, democratic or something else?
In my town the associations are blown up snobs. To change rules you need legal ones to help. Which I got.
Quote: Geoff Mutton @ December 21 2008, 8:42 PM GMTAre these associations autocratic, democratic or something else?
Democratic. A president is elected every year and various committees are formed to address issues like safety, etc.
Some are more strict than others, but you know what you're getting into when you buy a home in the neighborhood. The main goal of the association is to maintain the value of the homes by ensuring that The Joneses don't paint their house purple, park on their lawn or the street, raise chickens in their garage, etc.
Quote: DaButt @ December 21 2008, 9:02 PM GMTDemocratic. A president is elected every year and various committees are formed to address issues like safety, etc.
Some are more strict than others, but you know what you're getting into when you buy a home in the neighborhood. The main goal of the association is to maintain the value of the homes by ensuring that The Joneses don't paint their house purple, park on their lawn or the street, raise chickens in their garage, etc.
mums the word >_<
Quote: DaButt @ December 21 2008, 9:02 PM GMTDemocratic. A president is elected every year and various committees are formed to address issues like safety, etc.
Some are more strict than others, but you know what you're getting into when you buy a home in the neighborhood. The main goal of the association is to maintain the value of the homes by ensuring that The Joneses don't paint their house purple, park on their lawn or the street, raise chickens in their garage, etc.
Commendable. What happens to those who transgress? Is it;
a] Slap on wrist
b] 100 lines
c] Community Service
d] Written reprimand
e] Fined
f] Imprisoned
g] Evicted
Quote: Geoff Mutton @ December 21 2008, 9:09 PM GMTCommendable. What happens to those who transgress? Is it;
a] Slap on wrist
b] 100 lines
c] Community Service
d] Written reprimand
e] Fined
f] Imprisoned
g] Evicted
G, E
Quote: Geoff Mutton @ December 21 2008, 9:09 PM GMTCommendable. What happens to those who transgress?
To be honest, I'm sure that many people break the rules every day. I don't think anyone will be punished for having more than 2 pets unless they become a nuisance. The homes are all fairly new and well-maintained, so the primary focus is on things like parking in the street and ensuring that trash bins are kept out of sight except on collection day. The street parking always annoyed me and it was a safety issue because a firetruck wouldn't be able to pass if cars were parked on both sides of the street. The new president has put a stop to it by issuing warnings and having repeat offenders' cars towed away.
Major infractions will result in fines and the owners could find themselves sued out of their homes. In reality, I doubt anyone will ever be booted out.
Sounds reasonable. Are you allowed to prepare curry? *tries to return to thread topic*
With the rapid increase in homeowners associations and restrictive covenants, there is a nationwide move by amateur radio operators to convince the associations to loosen their antenna restrictions for amateur radio operators. I'm planning to petition my association to allow an outdoor antenna for my equipment. I currently use antennas in my attic, but they are less than perfect and are useless for making contacts via satellite.
Quote: Geoff Mutton @ December 21 2008, 9:18 PM GMTSounds reasonable. Are you allowed to prepare curry?
Yes, as long as the meat wasn't raised in your back yard. The whole neighborhood tends to smell like BBQ on summer weekends. In the winter all you can smell are the backyard fire pits people like to congregate around. My deck has room for one, so I'm thinking about buying something like this:
Amateur radio = espionage in the eyes of some. Good luck with that one.
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