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Quote: Paul Wimsett @ 9th September 2017, 8:23 AM

Victor in One Foot in the Grave.
(Tom) Chance in Chance in a Million.
Any more ironical names for losers?

Another one might be Roger Dervish from "Outside Edge"?

Quote: Paul Wimsett @ 9th September 2017, 8:23 AM

Any more ironical names for losers?

Basil Fawlty - he certainly was.

Father Jack Hackett - he obviously couldn't.

Bob Ferris - always wanted to be a big wheel.

Miss Brahms - never made the list.

Frank Pickle - continually in one.

Denise Royle - as common as muck.

Dave Best - far from it, as a husband.

Denise Best - even further from it as a wife and (almost) the worst mother imaginable.

I don't think Fawlty, Ferris or Pickle count as ironic but this is improvement in my list.

Quote: Paul Wimsett @ 12th May 2020, 9:38 PM

I don't think Fawlty, Ferris or Pickle count as ironic but this is improvement in my list.

Irony is quite a complex concept and, as if that were not bad enough, there are several different types (and subtypes) of irony.

In the cases of Fawlty, Ferris and Pickle, it might reasonably be thought that what we have here is cosmic irony inasmuch as it's as if some godlike force decided that Basil was going to be a very imperfect character, Bob was always going to want to be a big wheel, and Frank was always going to be (or imagine himself to be) in some sort of worrying situation.

Why would the godlike force make such decisions?

For his/her own amusement - for such is the nature of cosmic irony.

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