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The Return

I'm back for what it is worth, mainly because we are on the eve of fantasy football and I don't want Don to give me the sack. Also, I feel that marathon running Gordon Bennett needs an English soul mate and Keewik deserves to find a reference point to blend her antidisestablishmentarianism with an acceptance of Brexit and the likelihood that she is my sister. What has happened? As with Harry Redknapp I have come through a cancer scare for now. They stuck a tube up my nose and down my throat and I don't want any discussion about it. It was what it was and that wasn't overtly sexual. And being the least actively sports minded person in history, I immediately reacted by abandoning my computer cling of seven years for an eight hour canoeing and kayaking course, only just convincing the trainers there that when it looked like I was drowning I can swim. Which I can't really but, hey, the romantic haze of sun across the lake was so beautiful it was almost Victorian, especially when everyone in the vicinity was struck down by hysteria.

Also - my very first operatic event which was the moment when I went totally crackers. Aaron - I will save the cat killer stuff till later if that is alright with you. I realise that if Don goes you will become the boss.

Bish bash bosh.

Whodunnit?

The Official Review

Part 1 of 4

Outline plot. Could this have been "our" first live music event in eight years? "We" can hardly believe it and yet it is probably true. We don't travel far now. Ideally, we need to know that we can walk home for any number of arguable reasons. Luckily, home is a mere ten minutes away. Obviously we see no reason why the truly world class should not be appreciative of our requirements and travel to us as is only appropriate. It is just that while a few will always naturally comply, the vast majority will choose to be unacceptably difficult. Such are the ways of the globe. But here's a different thing, not that it should matter. When was the last time we had set foot in the church of our Christening? An emotionless 1963 conveyor belt affair by all accounts. Much longer ago. Possibly decades. Certainly not since we discovered that any local alternative did not offer something better but was rather run by egotistical ex bank managers and ex civil servants. And not indeed since we learnt that this was the parish and mother church of Croydon, originally dedicated to Mary, not that anyone in Croydon actual would admit it. Or that it forms the southern tip of the Croydon Triangle linking to St Mary's, Beddington which in turn forms a pentagram axis to Camlet Moat near Barnet, not to mention Gog and Magog in Totteridge, also in North London, before geometrically ley lining off towards the folk music capital of Sussex, Rottingdean, and King Arthur's Glastonbury.

http://www.earthstars.co.uk/earthstars-sites-to-visit/

Part 2 of 4

Background. We did pop into "the local" first - a place we very much dislike - at precisely 22 minutes before 7.30pm. In that way we could be swift; feel on theoretically safe ground by comparison; know in view of the usual clientele there that we were on comparatively "not really us at all" ground; forget momentarily the destination with whatever that might bring; and hope that something peculiar might happen to distract us. Well, the peculiar happened. After a very lengthy wait to be served which put us on tenterhooks and the inevitable decision to be outside, a man approached and said it was probably a funny question but could we give him detailed information on how he should walk to Reading. We hoped that in providing detail for a full minute he would realise that he had taken on more than he could bear in terms of listening. But, oh no, he was serious which meant that he listened very well while laughing maniacally. We can read the runes here. To walk 40 or more miles to Reading is preposterous. Less so the message that had come to link our direction with farther west. Some point to Avalon. Anyhow, so then it was a panicky dash to the venue where most people were still meandering among the graves. No one else was wearing track suit bottoms.

Our memories of the church were never very good. They were not exactly awful. But as teenagers in what is on paper suburbia but perched so high it still has claims to having a village feel, we tended to think the grass was greener elsewhere. The area was always a little too conservative socially for our liking or perhaps seemingly pompous and to the extent that there was any feeling for religion it was decided that nonconformism could be a better bet. Now, this was and is strictly C of E as we have been and we suppose that ultimately it all has to be accepted. That is even with the criticisms about the way in which the lawn isn't mown as regularly as it might be and that only regular attenders of the church are permitted burial there when that should be based on the length of time we have been in the locality. A lot of things are better now. It is slightly hard to fathom how high ceilings so often led to a feeling of being about to fall; occasional visible shaking both in the legs and the hands; and on a rare occasion passing out. But that was a very long time ago. We look at the interior of the building knowing that there is also an exterior and with the eyes of a builder or a designer. What we note especially today is the sheer lack of anything on the inside other than a strange but eternal exotic canopy which is to say that the latter was there in the 1970s. For a very historical church, it could almost be modern or if not then a large old Methodist place in somewhere people rarely go. The spiritual and the musical as it relates to the building via Google can now weave through our perception of it and attach warmly enough to its modesty.

http://www.surreylaneweddingphotography.co.uk/images/surrey-wedding-photographs/st-johns-coulsdon/Wedding_couple_at_st_johns_church_coulsdon_from_balcony.jpg

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Part 3 of 4

Evidence. Many tickets were available. There may behind the table have been a ticket put aside especially for us as had been agreed but in the event that sort of discussion wasn't needed. Nevertheless the place was packed. We estimate over 90% of the pews were taken. There was an awkward moment when we held back from the entering throng by delaying our entrance and trying to buy a programme. The main seller was on one side of the chorale as it was travelling inward and we were on the other side. Consequently we got in their way until we managed to dance through a gap in their order. "You could join them" said the change giver, laughing. "They really wouldn't want us", we said. To be seated. We're on the end in the second to back pew with three seats between us and other people. Lovely. All the doors now open - more than we realised. Every quiet moment was addressed by birdsong which made such moments magical, especially as it was elegantly phased in by nature's disc jockey after each performance piece and subsequent applause. Yet few probably noticed it.

The chorale? 24 women and eight men, we think. Two women and one man of non white colour. As for their aptitude, we are not skilled at assessing such things. However, we would say that the women sounded slightly reedy in the quieter lower sections. They were much more convincing in the more emphatic moments, especially those which required a higher pitch and the addition of the male voices whenever that occurred added to the conviction of the chorale as a whole. Whether they would have been worth the £10 on their own we are not too sure. But the conductor was excellent. He gave a pen picture of each opera before the individual performances and with just the right amount of numerical humour. Berlioz had so much promise but he died in his mid thirties. Donizetti could easily turn a small event into a full five hours. Those refugees from Scotland celebrated that they were close to England but the place they thought they had reached was a hundred miles away. Such a shame it was his last performance as their musical director. As for the two soloists, they were stunningly good. We knew that we instinctively do genuine tears rolling down the cheeks and bright beaming smiles inside 30 seconds but we thought that was only for Puccini. No. It is also for Purcell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_50zj7J50U

Part 4 of 4

Judgment. Other folk kindly warned us about the possibility of prayers. There were no prayers. The church is, after all, their rehearsal rooms. There was wine. There can be wine and wine. This was red as would be fitting for communion but it was accompanied by the statement "well, this is more like it, here looks like a man who will be saying yes". We didn't have the heart to tell them that two people had come. But it was in our view fairly reassuring just as that moment when our ninety year old grandmother inadvertently gatecrashed footballer Kenny Sansom's wedding and was immediately invited by the clergy to their basement bar. The overwhelming majority of tonight's parishioners were grey and perhaps for that reason what there wasn't was any overt attitude although initially it seemed surprising. That was once the stuff of the elderly but now it is for the young and middle aged. One final point. We have detected similar dry humour at music events in the past. It is generally the sign in more serious affairs of a light but solid sophistication. Here, in a church, all sorts of nuances came with it - with reference to the plots, talk of lotharios and loose women, gypsies, suicide and much else. The male soloist even flirted during one of his renditions with a couple of seventy-somethings if with minimal chance of frisk. At the door, raffle tickets were being flogged and nice books were on sale. The secular ran through its every vein and yet there was something religious too. All of it merged. But the spiritual side was separate. It was in the music itself which to us is always spirituality or the gateway through it, depending on outlook. Texts tend to be a diversion. That's how we see it and how we feel it. That's me and me who feels I am becoming, as I aspire to be, ever closer in my soul to Morse. I and I may be easily pleased with virtually anything now but I am unanimously pleased it was my very first "opera". I have an absolute consensus on that point. That turns out to be the key distinction and we can gladly confirm I am happy to rest my case.

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5837146.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Elaine-and-Kenny-Sansom-on-their-wedding-day.jpg

Return? Whistling nnocently

Oh yeah, back in May, and I see your verbosity hasn't left you. :D

Welcome back Horse and you take your mitts off GB as he has had me long before you came on the scene and we are in love.

Part 1
Well

Part 2
come again.

Sorry you've been ill. I'm intrigued at having at last found a long lost brother. My parents never told me. However I'm sure it's true as I, too, have sluggardly anti-sport blood in my veins.

As regards setting foot inside the church where we were christened, that brought back an interesting memory. Does the church hall count? I'd never been in the church throughout my life, but when I was in my early twenties I was asked to recite 'Tam O'Shanter' at a Burns supper in the hall, and subsequently they asked me back to do some poems at a concert (I got paid for that one). Until now, it had never dawned on me that these were the only times I'd been to that church (apart from being taken to a wedding there when I was about 2, which I don't remember).

Thank you for the kind comments which will I respond to properly later.

I'm doin' my bucket list. 50 things you've always wanted to do in the time left after doing nothing for seven years. One thing I want to do is drive an old open top tractor - not those new things with a cabin - but they only have them in Banbury so hopefully Herc can drive one of his fleet here. Let's say this Thursday unless I hear to the contrary. And yes I've been writing. Here is the one about the cat killer before I do the one about the Mummers Play:

Part A

It was lovely to meet you said the Chairman of the residents association on Friday by which she meant the e-mails were now less worrying. I had been taking the eighteen envelopes from under her red plastic box as she had instructed when suddenly the door swung open and it was her. She was grateful for my involvement and my full acceptance that she is a busy woman. "All my time is being taken up with the Cacilla" she appeared to say. "The what?" "The Cacilla.....we were up at Netherne where you said you have recently walked". "There is a lot of space there for housing" I said. "Yes" she replied. "It's the same in all of the places where there used to be mental hospitals and it's just happened again there". Mostly, I know, she is to be found in some or other Croydon consortium. Very good luck to her. I wouldn't want the role. "So what is the "Cacilla"......a newer organisation there?" "No", she said, "the Cacilla.....he's ripped off the heads of 500 now and he's gone on to owls". "Oh......the cat killer. Yes I have seen the signs on the lamp posts. I am so sorry. I heard it as something else".

Part B

So it was today I was speaking to the train driver opposite except he is sadly no longer driving trains because of his illness. Not doing too badly, mind, so we're hopeful. "I'm delivering letters about the proposed new road and the association is happy because they are so busy at the moment with the cat killer". Oh, he said, just as his cat arrived which he stroked and which I nearly stroked until I quickly remembered its history. We aren't fools. We all know that his arm was ripped to shreds by his own cat and not another one in the neighbourhood. Then it dawned on me. The need for further apologies. "I wasn't thinking. You must think I am so undiplomatic. It is the very last thing I should have mentioned". "Not at all" he replied. "He should come to my place. My cat would rip his head off. You realise that animals are just the start with these people? They do humans next. It would be the best for everybody".

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...terror-UK.html

Also, Mr George K, we were looking for the slightly unusual on the gogglebox at Glastonbury and think that this was one of the best of the weekend in that regard although he is an acquired taste. Wouldn't call it exactly easy - especially as he is a bit wordy for my liking - but not much is easy these days:

Father John Misty - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08w9fzr

(Starts at 12 minutes)

Welcome back HorseyWave

Thanks Will Cam. You could be my brother.

Keewik - If I add being a hunt saboteur for a day to my list of things to do, you are very welcome to join me.

Firkin - Thank you for the private message. I appreciated it.

Herc - How wonderful to hear that you are full of bromance. But as far as bringing the tractor here is concerned, all you will need is the self-respect associated with doing a good deed. I can get up early if you want to take it along the M25 when it's quite empty and am even prepared to put a seat and table on the steps so that you can enjoy a bowl of cereal.

This was the play I attended although it is last year's version. I will include my comprehensive review of it tomorrow:

It did go into most of the quality papers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NfsEAolj2E

Quote: A Horseradish @ 10th July 2017, 9:02 PM

Keewik - If I add being a hunt saboteur for a day to my list of things to do, you are very welcome to join me.

That might be fun, especially if I'm allowed to shout 'Bastard' Tory Scum,' at them.

It would be a requirement.

My Night With The Mummers

(this was before I had my hospital results)

The pub was empty. The garden initially had two families in it who stayed. The Irish manager was friendly. How ironic that he should be Irish given the history. Anyhow, I b----y had to walk there on account of an hourly bus service but it was good for me even though buses passed me unexpectedly. Once in, I explained that I had never been in there but I was possibly ten or fifteen years younger than I looked. This is always the test. Do they run to the hills as soon as it is spoken - or freeze?

Yes, the pro Brexit Cypriot taxi driver on Friday had said that I looked too young even to contemplate terminal illness and I really should consider having kids. But anyhow, I knew the history of the place going back half a century. By which I meant the barracks over the road, long gone, the hospital for the mentally handicapped where we had sung and especially the bomb. The barman chose an earlier history while we beat around the bush. The lady who had run the joint in 1965 came back last week, he said. Wow. Now she really is elderly. I am here for the unusual entertainment. Oh that. Yes it's happening. Am I only the one?

Laughter. Possibly yes. I sat outside with a pint watching two girls aged 20 taking selfies of themselves. Good looking. Great looking. Ultimately a would you like to join us love. Please. Have a chat. I had been labelled the late 30-something sad loner rather than the rather older sad observer. Something weird is about to happen, I said. How? Are you about to have a date, said the slightly less troubled looking one. No, I said, not that weird, then all of a sudden in walked blokes covered in bits of paper. One was in a Daddy Christmas outfit. There was a conservative male type - decent and learned and a couple of liberal female types - you know, dangly earrings - businesslike and friendly among the party along with a cameraman who I spoke with the most.

The sun was fading. Nature's way of enabling what I write to have any sort of relevance. I looked at the girls as the Mummers bore down on them. They had forgotten me and seemed doubly physically attractive, But they also seemed doubly awkward. There I said. I said something odd was about to happen. Silence, Clearly now tetchy and really uncomfortable, love them, they abandoned their joint selfies and started arguing coolly among themselves. A key character was black. I felt he needed encouragement for taking a full part in something so traditional. Total respect. So I fought to speak to him. One of the girls was by then weighing up her options. Should she listen to him or hide in her mobile phone? Are the bits of paper on you George Osborne in the Evening Standard, I asked? This went down like a lead balloon. Oh well. I tried. Damn George lovers.

I then went to the toilet and ignored the fact that I had misfired . And when they got going I wasn't bothered about the splodge on my shorts. Senility here we come. It is hard to keep the shorts up now. That is the main concern although all the youngsters do it. I have lost weight. 60 miles of walking alone, a complete end to sweets and chocolate and trifle and a lot of digging in the garden. That may be the reason or else I really am terminal ill. The performance started. We all sang half a dozen times "I can't get no satisfaction" and did sideways glances and threw our hands in the air. Well, at least the Mummers crowd and I did. Most looked aghast while the cocky kid double speared the guy who was on the floor. A helicopter kept flying over with safeguarding and malevolent intent. It looked pretty below the sort of cloud that we have really never seen before but this is Summer 2017.

The play was brilliant and nuanced. Most of the audience kept their mouths shut. I am too shy to do that sort of thing. My frequent loud nervy injections were hardly welcomed. But my weakest moment when Daddy Christmas did a god like thing about needing to be adored was met with "what - in June?" did get a laugh. Afterwards, I made an especial point of shaking the hand of the black man and thanked him. I wondered if he was the local MP but not so. Then I thanked and shook the hand of the photographer who while older than me was clearly fancying his chances with the girls. I felt a little disgruntled about his audacity and then was delighted to see them standing up annoyed and storming off in a strop. Finally, I left with the smirk of a true loner who felt benign and even uplifted by it. Did anyone see me as mystery? Maybe - but they and I couldn't give a toss.

Quote: A Horseradish @ 10th July 2017, 9:02 PM

Herc - How wonderful to hear that you are full of bromance. But as far as bringing the tractor here is concerned, all you will need is the self-respect associated with doing a good deed. I can get up early if you want to take it along the M25 when it's quite empty and am even prepared to put a seat and table on the steps so that you can enjoy a bowl of cereal.

Having nearly killed myself twice on that Grey Fergie plus numerous near misses, it is highly unlikely I would ever climb up onto a tractor again, but the breakfast picnic table is tempting. Will there be a selection of cereals?

What on earth were you doing on it Herc?

Making lurve?

In answer to your question, I've got oats, wheat, corn, barley and rye.

Amongst the many things this f**king idiot did for a living, and I really mean that (the F.I.) - I had to report him to Health and Safety when I left his employ as it was wonder nobody had been killed working for him - he had a vineyard, which was on a very steep hill and the access road was off a fairly busy country road.

On the first occasion AND my first go at driving the Fergie WITH a trailer on the back was to go uphill but it started to roll back towards the road and self preservation kicked in when I stamped on the brake and someone else jumped on the tractor and "sorted it out" as I had no idea how to park it on a steep hill.
The second time was on the same hill, but going forwards down it and I don't know what happened but I shoved the accelerator lever forward somehow and panic set in a we lurched towards the main road. My mate half jumped on board and flipped the lever back to "zero" and all I could think of doing was to steer it into a heavy oak gate post, which was fortunate and the whole thing stalled. PHEW! Was I relieved and thanked my mate profusely.

Other than those two incidents, there were many times I nearly tipped the Fergie over negotiating the steep and narrow lanes between the vine rows. :S

No maize then....................

Hey Radish, good to have you back, and sorry to hear about your health issues. Sounds like you've been pushing the boat out in every sense. :)

Quote: A Horseradish @ 10th July 2017, 11:51 AM

Also, Mr George K, we were looking for the slightly unusual on the gogglebox at Glastonbury and think that this was one of the best of the weekend in that regard although he is an acquired taste. Wouldn't call it exactly easy - especially as he is a bit wordy for my liking - but not much is easy these days:

Father John Misty - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08w9fzr

(Starts at 12 minutes)

Thanks for the footage. I missed you on the Glastonbury 2017 thread, and was concerned that you didn't chime in as usual, so relieved to see you back again.

Here's my Glasto highlight for you. I've already posted First Aid Kit on Chappers' birthday thread, so here's Warpaint's set which I streamed live at the time, and made me regret passing up two opportunities to catch them live.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p055ytxm/glastonbury-2017-44-warpaint#group=p056kg71

Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 12th July 2017, 12:17 PM

Amongst the many things this f**king idiot did for a living, and I really mean that (the F.I.) - I had to report him to Health and Safety when I left his employ as it was wonder nobody had been killed working for him - he had a vineyard, which was on a very steep hill and the access road was off a fairly busy country road.

On the first occasion AND my first go at driving the Fergie WITH a trailer on the back was to go uphill but it started to roll back towards the road and self preservation kicked in when I stamped on the brake and someone else jumped on the tractor and "sorted it out" as I had no idea how to park it on a steep hill.
The second time was on the same hill, but going forwards down it and I don't know what happened but I shoved the accelerator lever forward somehow and panic set in a we lurched towards the main road. My mate half jumped on board and flipped the lever back to "zero" and all I could think of doing was to steer it into a heavy oak gate post, which was fortunate and the whole thing stalled. PHEW! Was I relieved and thanked my mate profusely.

Other than those two incidents, there were many times I nearly tipped the Fergie over negotiating the steep and narrow lanes between the vine rows. :S

No maize then....................

Sounds grim.

I thought driving a tractor would be easy.

Luckily you are still with us.

I do buy breakfast maize - you know, the cracklepops - but only with the monkey on the front and when they do that series of six plastic aeroplanes at the base of the box.

Quote: George Kaplan @ 12th July 2017, 3:14 PM

Hey Radish, good to have you back, and sorry to hear about your health issues. Sounds like you've been pushing the boat out in every sense. :)

Thanks for the footage. I missed you on the Glastonbury 2017 thread, and was concerned that you didn't chime in as usual, so relieved to see you back again.

Here's my Glasto highlight for you. I've already posted First Aid Kit on Chappers' birthday thread, so here's Warpaint's set which I streamed live at the time, and made me regret passing up two opportunities to catch them live.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p055ytxm/glastonbury-2017-44-warpaint#group=p056kg71

Thank you for your kind words, GK.

I will enjoy reading the Glastonbury thread and listening to the music there. :)

Quote: A Horseradish @ 12th July 2017, 4:13 PM

I will enjoy reading the Glastonbury thread and listening to the music there. :)

Here's Songhoy Blues who I first discovered at last year's Glasto doing one of those off-stage extra sets just for the cameras & presenters.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p056c7y6/glastonbury-2017-37-songhoy-blues#group=p056kg71

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