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Quote: Frankie Rage @ September 18, 2007, 1:03 AMChapman must be at least a ton if he's a day!
But heis lurrrrrrrrvely.
I couldnt resist I am all jollyed up for a row. I am trying to type in my boxing gloves. The ones I thought about stealing but didnt.
I am in the mood for starting a new one now. I cant add anymore to the other one. So here goes.
Animal experiments? 
Quote: Aaron @ September 18, 2007, 12:14 AMBut yes, even though I am a conservative, I would seriously question whether prison is really suitable or effective in this case.
I think prison is definately suitable for a conservative 
Quote: Frankie Rage @ September 18, 2007, 12:48 AMWhat you say about Langham's intentions are just his claims which may not be true.
Indeed they may not. But we should accept them as so, since they were presented as true whilst under oath in a court of law. As far as I'm aware, the prosecution failed to prove any more than he admitted; that he had had the images.
Quote: Frankie Rage @ September 18, 2007, 12:48 AMToo harsh a penalty? What would be the right penalty? A fine? I don't think so, we can't let people buy their way out of their guilt. Community service? Again, why do people in the community have to put up with criminals helping them? No, jail is the only answer.
I'm not sure, but I still believe that such a jail sentence is too harsh. Aside from perhaps make an example of him to others (which shouldn't be acceptable, but for some reason is), it has nothing more to acheive than wasting thousands of pounds of taxpayers' money.
Quote: ajp29 @ September 18, 2007, 2:36 AMI think prison is definately suitable for a conservative
Boom boom.
Quote: zooo @ September 17, 2007, 6:46 PMOh for god's sake.
Everyone has their own opinions, there's no need for anyone to be patronising.
Zooo, for goodness sake this isn't patronising. In fact this couldn't be a sadder situation. I don't take cheap shots. OK, Chris Langham is a very funny man but he's also a nasty piece of work wih regard to children.
Fair enough, I didn't mean to sound quite so pissed off when I wrote that. 
I just wish he'd had anonymity so he could get a fair (or not) punishment, without it having to ruin his entire life, and his family's lives. Plus we wouldn't have to know about it, or be talking about it now.
Going to prison doesn't ruin someones entire life. People ruin their own lives by their actions/inactions. If he behaves well in prison and follows the rules why shouldn't he leave prison and get on with his life? He may no longer be able to get work on TV but there are plenty of other jobs going.
You can't have anonymity for criminals. Justice needs to be seen to be done. You may personally not agree that he has committed a crime and you may personally think he shouldn't be sent to prison, that's why we have courts to decide. If he feels he has been treated unjustly he can appeal against his sentence. Has he appealed?
Just a reminder everyone - this is first and foremost supposed to be a comedy site.
You're more than welcome to discuss other stuff but lets stay away from the controversial topics shall we - as has been demonstrated it causes tension we don't need.
Unless anyone has anything really pressing you just have to voice in regards to this Chris Langham stuff then lets leave that discussion behind now can we?
Frankie - I believe I heard somewhere that appealing is likely to be 'pointless'. He'll be out in a few months anyway.
Just one weeny point, he didn't even have anonymity before he was found guilty. That can't be right.
I agree. The same with the McCanns. But that's down to the freedom of the press. You either ban them reporting cases in court or crimes being being investigated or you give them freedom to report. This country has long decided to give them freedom to report.
No more posts on this topic if I can help help it!
Mark - if he thinks he's been treated unjustly he should definitely appeal to clear his name. It's not just about whether he's in prison or not, but his good name has been lost/badly tarnished.
Wouldn't such an appeal just be a waste of time and money, both for him and the taxpayer? At the end of the day, we all know that the British public, particularly spurred by the tabloids, don't forget such accusations, whether proven or not.
Although they seem to be largely ignoring the accusations against the McCann family. I'm sure that there's a psychiatry-of-society essay in there somewhere!
I don't think it would be a waste of time and money if he genuinely believed he had been unfairly treated. It would be right and proper for him to appeal.
As for society, yes some would brand him guilty even if he won an appeal as some brand him innocent even though he has been found guilty by a court.
I saw the title of this thread and thought there was a shortage of topic choccie bars!
Thank goodness this is not the case.
Langham would not win an appeal and would likely be given a bigger sentance. He broke the law and technically an appeal judge would have to come to that ruling. His only chance was to be let off by a jury.
The anonymity point Zooo raised is interesting because as far as I can see its the one area in society which is inherently sexist against men. I think in such cases the victim and the defendant should keep their anonymity. If the defendant is found guilty then his identity should be revealed. However Family courts have this approach and you don't need a Fathers For Justice Superhero to tell you that that is also unfair and inherently sexist.
Quote: ajp29 @ September 18, 2007, 7:27 PMThe anonymity point Zooo raised is interesting because as far as I can see its the one area in society which is inherently sexist against men.
Eh? Not quite sure I follow. Would women in the same position be afforded anonymity?
But nevertheless, society is extremely prejudiced and n-ist against many of the groups traditionally seen as better, larger, or otherwise more dominant. The best example of this is probably the MOBO Awards. Music Of Black Origin. The "ethnic minorities" would go absolutely f**king ballistic if someone had launched a MOWO Awards. A whole new level of hypocrisy, IMO.