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Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 28th February 2014, 12:30 PM GMT

Swear words are a form of verbal violence, which we use to upset someone who has upset us or against some inanimate object, which makes us feel better having released the tension, and with a bit of luck we walk away physically unharmed; but the more commonplace swearing becomes, the more it loses its impact, and the only thing that is left is physical violence. There is no safety valve.

Wasn't that a South Park episode not too long ago? Curse words being "words of curse" that became so over-used on TV and in society, they lost their shock value, enabling evil dragon to arise and kill people? I can't remember; only watched it once.

I disagree that if swearing becomes commonplace we will resort to violence. Swearing is already commonplace with me and I am violent only when shooting people and animals - which only happens a dozen times a day.

Quote: Kenneth @ 28th February 2014, 2:32 PM GMT

You had a deprived and sheltered childhood.

I don't think muthaf**ka need have incestuous connotations. Could be f**king someone else's mother.

I was probably a child in a earlier decade to you, besides which, why should not knowing about swearing be a deprived childhood?

And so do you really think that it is used to refer to someone else's Mother?

Quote: Kenneth @ 28th February 2014, 3:53 PM GMT

Wasn't that a South Park episode not too long ago? Curse words being "words of curse" that became so over-used on TV and in society, they lost their shock value, enabling evil dragon to arise and kill people? I can't remember; only watched it once.

I disagree that if swearing becomes commonplace we will resort to violence. Swearing is already commonplace with me and I am violent only when shooting people and animals - which only happens a dozen times a day.

Never watched South Park so can't comment.

There are certainly more factors to why society is more violent now than say 50 years ago, and I'm not saying that commonplace swearing is causing violence; but as each decade passed and swearing became used more in public it is probably something that needs to be considered.

Oh dear, I'm beginning to sound like some vicar now.............. Angelic

Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 28th February 2014, 4:54 PM GMT

why should not knowing about swearing be a deprived childhood?

Cos Derek & Clive, the Twelfth Man and lesser acts were great fun for kids to listen to and learn from.

Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 28th February 2014, 4:54 PM GMT

And so do you really think that it is used to refer to someone else's Mother?

Totally. Did you never go the trifecta back in the day? That's when you screw the daughter, the mother and the grandmother - not all at the same time, mind you. It can take years to achieve a trifecta. Years ago, some of my friends unkindly nicknamed me "the granny shagger" because when out in bars, I would sympathize with older single women and let them take me home. All good learning experience.

From a linguistic point of view, you may like to know that one of the biggest insults in Arabic (apart from "your God is a piece of shit") is "kus emek" - which means "your mother's pussy" - which allows for no ambiguity over whose pussy we're talking about. You want to be careful saying "kus emek" in the Middle East. It's fine as a general curse, but don't say it to a chap's face or he may beat you into the ground.

Violence been around forever. No amount of swearing going to change things. Straw dog argument.

Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 28th February 2014, 4:54 PM GMT

Never watched South Park so can't comment.

Watch it. Good stuff.

Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 28th February 2014, 4:54 PM GMT

There are certainly more factors to why society is more violent now than say 50 years ago,

Is society more violent now then 50 years ago? The mid 60s had Mods vs Rockers and the Krays running around nailing people's heads to tables. Crime is certainly reported to the police more and publicised in the press a lot more these days, so there must be more crime.

And if you want to talk about violent crime without the inclusion of rape, paedophilia, child abuse and domestic battering, then why not head back to the mid 1960s when that kind of thing never happened. That's why there was a death penalty and the Moors murders. Oops.

As for taking a literal bent on potty language, well bugger me you buggering bugger, what could be worse then inferring you have sex with your own mother - except maybe casually mentioning that you stick your cock up animal's buttholes?

Perception and subjectivity are strange things.

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 28th February 2014, 8:01 PM GMT

Perception and subjectivity are strange things.

Amen to that......... :)

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 28th February 2014, 8:01 PM GMT

Is society more violent now then 50 years ago? The mid 60s had Mods vs Rockers and the Krays running around nailing people's heads to tables. Crime is certainly reported to the police more and publicised in the press a lot more these days, so there must be more crime.

Recorded incidences of violent crime have been slowly declining since the 1980s. Presumably the 1980s was when we started actually recording crime statistics.

Yeah, some people have trouble swallowing the fact that things are getting better.

Quote: Raymond Terrific @ 1st March 2014, 1:54 PM GMT

Recorded incidences of violent crime have been slowly declining since the 1980s. Presumably the 1980s was when we started actually recording crime statistics.

Yeah, some people have trouble swallowing the fact that things are getting better.

The 12th-Century "Anarchy" years, amounted to 18 years of uncontrolled rape and murder when it is said that "Christ and His Saints Slept".

Then there's the Spanish Inquisition, or the 30 Years War (during which around 40% of the population of what is now Germany were wilfully slaughtered in what amounted to a bullshit religious cluster f**k). Good, honest, God-fearing 18th/19th-Century folk participated in the genocides of the native peoples of Australasia and The Americas, and then the slave trade... Elizabeth Bathory (slaughtered 650 virgins), Vlad the Impaler, The Golden Horde (50% of modern-day Hungary killed), The Harrying of the North (5% of England killed), Jacquerie, The Reign of Terror (40000 executions), Viking raids, Taiping Rebellion (20 million dead)...

"killed a knight, put him on a spit, and roasted him with his wife and children looking on. After ten or twelve of them raped the lady, they wished to force feed them the roasted flesh of their father and husband and made them then die by a miserable death."

He roasted children, whom he fed to their mothers. And (he) cut off the breasts of women, and forced their husbands to eat them. After that, he had them all impaled.

In every case a restrained and gagged victim was forced to swallow (by means of a funnel) a large amount of unappetizing, sometimes boiling liquid. Substances such as urine, excrement, liquid manure, and sullage were used for this purpose. Apart from disgust, illness, and the possibility of bacterial infection, the Schwedentrunk inflicted intense gastric pain. Because liquids are incompressible, the victim's stomach and bowels must expand to painful proportions to accommodate the copious quantities of fluid. The torturers then squeezed the distended belly with wooden boards or trampled the victim underfoot.

The early-20th-Century gave us the Holocaust, Russian military atrocities in Eastern Europe and Germany, The Rape of Nangking, tens-of-millions killed by paranoid pseudo-socialist psychopaths in Russia and China, the Second Reich's genocide in Namibia.... etc.

The 'decades'? The Khmer Rouge, The Manson Family, Jonestown, My-Lei, the CIA carpet-bombing Laos for 8 years, The Congolese Civil War, Mark David Chapman, the Kent State University shootings, Mau-Mau, the Munich Olympics, the Yorkshire Ripper/Fred West/Moors Murderers, Korean Air Lines Flight 007... etc.

A certain % of human race has always been awful.

In fact, on average I think we're slightly less-awful nowadays.

Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 22nd February 2014, 9:37 AM GMT

because it highlighted a concern of mine that there IS a clique operating within the forum, although understandably "the clique" would deny this, and they are the long standing members who noticeably guffaw at each other's postings but seem to disdain anything from newer members.

I've been here since April 2007 and I've never become aware of a clique. Occasionally I've had a post or two ignored and you sense posters freezing you out, but these people are always utter f**kwits, whose contribution to the forum is less than a piece of marked-out HTML.

I probably have more trouble than anyone else with new posters as they often take what I write completely at face value and don't take the time or are too mongoloid to realise that I am being ironic (or post ironic).

Nevertheless everything is redeemable through wit and even wankers and people I dislike have the capacity to win me over.

Even Stott, who I've praised (very) occasionally for something brilliant he's done. (Although he never believes me).

F**k me

you lot are bloody cheerful today!

It's about time someone told you, Lofthouse, that avatar of yours is f**king shit inside shit.

f**king change it you c**t.

Ermmmmm....

Nope !

Quote: Godot Taxis @ 2nd March 2014, 2:04 PM GMT

I've been here since April 2007 and I've never become aware of a clique.

That's the idea !

;)

Some people on here have 47,000 posts spread over 7 or 8 years. With that kind of familiarity - including real-life meets - of course there'll be some sort of a clique. It would be weird if there wasn't.

Exactly

Quote: Godot Taxis @ 2nd March 2014, 2:28 PM GMT

It's about time someone told you, Lofthouse, that avatar of yours is f**king shit inside shit.

f**king change it you c**t.

No, no, no! Don't change it. I love a cat with a coat.

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