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When/Why did the BCG become so dull & lifeless? Page 8

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ October 5 2013, 1:58 PM BST

Well, you won't like it, but I see nothing wrong in the 'indigenous' northern European based populace of a country hanging onto their long established cultural reigns, and being proud of that culture and not wanting it to be stolen away in the night courtesy of a bunch of clueless, spineless, graceless, rootless, useless lefties. That cultural heritage including being the first nation to abolish slavery, the first to offer real prospects to better yourself to immigrants, the first to really take care of and respect women and children and all the many other things I suspect you won't want mentioning.

There is nothing racist about that cultural balance of power, only solid gold nutters would want to chuck all that in the skip. You throw that out in a loony fit of modern PC housecleaning and you will destabilise the country way quicker than it's being done by the swamping influx of foreign cultures now. It's our heritage and cultural confidence that is keeping us afloat, just. And that includes our great sense of broad social humour!

And while we're at it, why don't we send children back up chimneys?

Quote: Harridan @ October 5 2013, 2:08 PM BST

Yikes. Do you write editorials for the Mail, by any chance? I think it's time to call it a day because you're just making straw-man arguments now.

No I'm giving you what you want, because you seemed to begging for me to hand you a last word invite, as you know you've lost the plot.

Quote: keewik @ October 5 2013, 2:28 PM BST

And while we're at it, why don't we send children back up chimneys?

Again, you're lapping up the bait. Read it properly. If any minority cultural leader disagrees with the main sentiment, I'll give you both a big kiss. :)

Quote: Nogget @ October 5 2013, 2:21 PM BST

It is terribly sweet that everyone who agrees with him chooses to imagine this.

Teary

Quote: Kevin Murphy @ October 5 2013, 2:09 PM BST

http://www.iveseenthingsandstuffman.com/ranting-s-of-renegade-car-park/

That apostrophe has given me a headache.

This thread is like that show Grumpy old men. I think it is fine here and the more newcomers arrive the better, variety is the spice of life and comedy and all that. Embrace the change I say.

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ October 5 2013, 2:34 PM BST

No I'm giving you what you want, because you seemed to begging for me to hand you a last word invite, as you know you've lost the plot.

I really have no idea what is going on with you.

Quote: sootyj @ October 5 2013, 1:33 PM BST

Did you hear about the white male heterosexual man?
Yes his story is the medias dominant narrative

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As a relative newcomer, I must say I rather like it here. People are weloming, mostly level-headed and there are hardly any threads wasting energy over thin, inflammatory issues. Except this one. Perhaps it's the frontier spirit of proper, old-fashoed internet arguing that some of you miss..?

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ October 5 2013, 1:01 PM BST

But this is where you lot fall down.

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I reckon if you want a forum to be different, start the threads you want to have.

I'm here less as a British comedy fan (I think America wins hands down at the moment, although we used to be good)and more as an aspiring writer hoping to speak to other aspiring writers, as I don't know anyone as serious as me about writing comedy in real life.

I'd personally prefer to speak about people's plans, what they're doing to get seen, what kind of issues they're coming across while writing etc. So I guess I'll go start those threads...

Quote: sglen @ October 5 2013, 4:08 PM BST

I reckon if you want a forum to be different, start the threads you want to have.

Agreed.

Man, I'm glad I've got people to remind me that my interpretation of what is funny is fundamentally flawed because of my gender and political bias. I mean, thank Jebus. Just imagine if I'd got to the gig tonight and those 300 poor people had to sit through my entire act without me picking on an entire group of people. I had always thought that jokes that rely on a punchline making fun of someone were at best just lazy and unwanted in the world of comedy, but THANKFULLY I've been shown that it's just my ovary-based emotion making me joyless and boring. I had foolishly thought that I'd been booked for this gig after tearing the arse off the two previous massive gigs but I think the promoters and mixed-gender audiences must have been just playing along because they're all PC nutters and I've got ladyfeatures. Those several hundred people mustn't have been a representation of the local social makeup at all; I was just mistaken because of my gender's crusade to ruin other peoples' fun.

Thanks for the help, guys! I'll let you know how my new and improved set goes- and if they end up booking for me Live At The Apollo I'll be sure to send my first paycheck directly to the Equality for Old White Men Who Just want To Make Fun Of People Who Are Different Than They Are (or EOWMWJWTMFPWAD for short) charity group out of grateful respect.

Quote: Natalie Of Wicks @ October 5 2013, 5:03 PM BST

Man, I'm glad I've got people to remind me that my interpretation of what is funny is fundamentally flawed because of my gender and political bias. I mean, thank Jebus. Just imagine if I'd got to the gig tonight and those 300 poor people had to sit through my entire act without me picking on an entire group of people. I had always thought that jokes that rely on a punchline making fun of someone were at best just lazy and unwanted in the world of comedy, but THANKFULLY I've been shown that it's just my ovary-based emotion making me joyless and boring. I had foolishly thought that I'd been booked for this gig after tearing the arse off the two previous massive gigs but I think the promoters and mixed-gender audiences must have been just playing along because they're all PC nutters and I've got ladyfeatures. Those several hundred people mustn't have been a representation of the local social makeup at all; I was just mistaken because of my gender's crusade to ruin other peoples' fun.

Thanks for the help, guys! I'll let you know how my new and improved set goes- and if they end up booking for me Live At The Apollo I'll be sure to send my first paycheck directly to the Equality for Old White Men Who Just want To Make Fun Of People Who Are Different Than They Are (or EOWMWJWTMFPWAD for short) charity group out of grateful respect.

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As soon as I realise Alfred's talking crap again I skim over his posts. (No offence Alf!)
Makes life much more pleasant.

Okay, I'll not try to be snarkily humourous now in favour of actually trying to make a sensible point.

The problem for the Alfreds of the UK is simply that, unfortunately for them, the majority of people who create and pay for comedy nowerdays just don't think making fun of other people is as funny as they did 50 years ago. They just don't. And maybe women naturally produce comedy which falls inline with that, I'm not sure- making fun of themselves rather than groups of people. The idea that a huge portion of funny females write material about hating men is just an absolute nothing of a statement because it isn't true. Of the 20ish women I have worked with in the last 6 months or so, I can think of only one who had anything which even came close to misandry. I can understand that it would be frustrating to be in a group which sees people taking away their favourite styles of comedy, I really can. But it's not any one group's fault that comedy (and society, hopefully) has grown up and just got bored of it.

Note: All statements in the above should be read to have the words "In my opinion" directly preceding them.

(Side note to all, don't expect me to flounce away dramatic-style this time like I did last year. I've just seen, first hand, these theories poo-pooed so many times now that I now find it hard to take it too seriously and don't get so upset about it.)

Just returning to Tim's original point, comedy is pretty lifeless at the moment. Most of it is hardly worth watching, letting alone stringing together twelve words in an internet post about. Water cooler TV that drags us in our droves to the boards is in short supply in 2013.

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