Quote: zooo @ June 6 2010, 1:03 AM BSTYou think Jagger's a better singer than Freddie Mercury??
That's where the boundaries blur I think.
Best front man/ singer or best singer?
If the former, Freddie. If the latter, Paul Rogers?
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Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ June 6 2010, 1:00 AM BSTBest band, totally agree, it had to be Led Zep.
I like their albums, but I've never been able to sit through a live video because they were basically shit on stage. They couldn't come close to what The Who were doing in the late 60s and early 70s.
Weren't the Beatles the best band?
or is it just pure rock?
Quote: Oldrocker @ June 6 2010, 1:08 AM BSTThat's where the boundaries blur I think.
Best front man/ singer or best singer?
If the former, Freddie. If the latter, Paul Rogers?
Oh no, I knew they meant rock n roll band front man/vocalist, with all the pomp that entails, and I still say Jagger beats Freddie.
If we're talking purely singer then I could reel off several immediately who easily beat both of them, Elvis Presely, Rod Stewart, Van Morrison etc.
But surely Freddie was the pompiest man ever.
Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ June 6 2010, 1:16 AM BSTIf we're talking purely singer then I could reel off several immediately who easily beat both of them, Elvis Presely, Rod Stewart, Van Morrison etc.
I'm not even a massive Freddie/Queen fan or anything, but I would have thought he would come out top even more in that category! He had a perfect voice, he was practically an classical/opera singer or something. One of the strongest voices in the world, surely.
Anybody here seen both of them?
I have, and for my money, Freddie everytime and I'm a big fan of both bands.
Did I ever tell you about the opening of the Queen concert at Stafford Bingley Hall on the News of the World tour?
Yeah granted he probably was, but I always thought he took it too far away from music and into theatre, whereas Jagger was campy but always rock n roll. (I'm not a Queen lover)
On your second point, I'm sorry but I couldn't agree less really, his voice had power but very little colour, imo, he really was better suited to opera than rock n roll - compare his voice to Presely's - now there is a voice that had the same depth and power, but also a vast amount more colour and feeling, Freddie is left there standing in his wonderbra!
Ah yes, I can see that. He was very theatrical.
Quote: DaButt @ June 6 2010, 1:09 AM BSTI like their albums, but I've never been able to sit through a live video because they were basically shit on stage. They could come close to what The Who were doing in the late 60s and early 70s.
Yes, The Who were awesome; much prefer their albums and their live performances to Led Zep.
The Who were such a complete band, every person was at the top of their respective fields. When you talk about 'the greatest' drummers, guitar players, bass players and rock front men, each member of The Who makes it into any top ten list.
As do all of Led Zep, who had all four members on the prog's list with three of them in the top three. I love The Who as well, I would say they are the best live band ever, but I also have to say that a lot of people find them very samey, and they haven't created many great melodies, compared to say, The Beatles or The Stones.
Led Zep went properly heavy and still came out with some great guitar melodies and riffy stuff. It was Page who really invented the heavy guitar sound, not Hendrix, as Lauren Laverne rightly said last night (she knows her stuff). If McCartney and Jagger are knights of the realm then why the hell isn't the supreme one, Jimmy Page?
Quote: Oldrocker @ June 6 2010, 12:30 AM BSTBest guitarist - Hendrix?? Don't even get me started on that over amplified, distorted, over rated pack of crap!
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ June 6 2010, 11:01 AM BST
Try this for about a minute starting around 2.25.
I don't think he was crap in any way but he was a little bit of a dilletante, to put it kindly. He took the waa waa sounds that others had started with, the feedback methods Page had created, learned from the odd tuning of Peter Green, used the Marshall amps that The Who were already using, and ofcourse the guitar breaking showmanship of Townshend. He mastered it all so quickly that everyone thought he'd been doing it for years, but he hadn't! He had been a conventional guitaist for Litle Richard and one or two others. His debt to British musicians was immense. Oh and Clapton, who he admired more than anyone.
Countryfile.
Everyone start buying goat's meat, quick!
They shoot the lickle male baby goats in the head at birth, cos they only keep the ones who can produce goat's milk. 
Quote: zooo @ June 6 2010, 7:16 PM BSTCountryfile.
Everyone start buying goat's meat, quick!
They shoot the lickle male baby goats in the head at birth, cos they only keep the ones who can produce goat's milk.
So we save goats by eating them? 