Quote: A Horseradish @ 9th September 2014, 7:22 PM BSTI don't know the answer either but Diogenes is a species of hermit crab.
So maybe a couple of the others are ants?
I thought he was a Greek philosopher........ 
.....who suffered from dodgy knees. >_<
Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 9th September 2014, 8:23 PM BSTI thought he was a Greek philosopher........
.....who suffered from dodgy knees. >_<
Well, he is that too, yes. But that Herman word stood out to me as I was thinking of Herman and his Hermits. Could Michael Jackson have been regarded as a hermit? If so, that bit works. Then there's an
Adam so I thought that might be Adam and the Ants. But I could be barking entirely up the wrong tree.
Ooh! Look!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organisms_named_after_famous_people
Not a f**kin' clue what they're talking about though.
Quote: Oldrocker @ 10th September 2014, 12:52 AM BSTOoh! Look!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_orgasms_named_after_famous_people
Not a f**kin' clue what they're talking about though.
Quote: Oldrocker @ 10th September 2014, 12:52 AM BSTOoh! Look!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organisms_named_after_famous_people
Not a f**kin' clue what they're talking about though.
You don't know.........I learnt my craft from MarcP
Quote: A Horseradish @ 9th September 2014, 8:26 PM BSTWell, he is that too, yes. But that Herman word stood out to me as I was thinking of Herman and his Hermits. Could Michael Jackson have been regarded as a hermit? If so, that bit works. Then there's an
Adam so I thought that might be Adam and the Ants. But I could be barking entirely up the wrong tree.
You've lost me Horse - I've no idea how they all connect. 
Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 10th September 2014, 6:45 AM BSTYou've lost me Horse - I've no idea how they all connect.
They're all in that link I posted.
Quote: Oldrocker @ 10th September 2014, 10:40 AM BSTThey're all in that link I posted.
Ahhhhh!!!! Thanks OR - should have looked at your link.
I get it now.
I didn't realise the listing of organisms after famous people was such common practice - thought it was only reserved for the very famous.
Not wanting to go through each one 'cos that would be tedious - clearly the four in the first group have successfully grown/expanded/survived or whatever they have done, more than the 6 other ones in the advancement of life/circumstances; be that flowers, insects, quadrupeds etc. etc.
Fascinating! Well, it is for me.............. 
Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 10th September 2014, 12:18 PM BSTAhhhhh!!!! Thanks OR - should have looked at your link.
I get it now.
I didn't realise the listing of organisms after famous people was such common practice - thought it was only reserved for the very famous.
Not wanting to go through each one 'cos that would be tedious - clearly the four in the first group have successfully grown/expanded/survived or whatever they have done, more than the 6 other ones in the advancement of life/circumstances; be that flowers, insects, quadrupeds etc. etc.
Fascinating! Well, it is for me..............
I couldn't find any detail on OR's link but I've discovered that in 2002, the entomologist Edward O. Wilson named a new ant species Pheidole harrisonfordi in recognition of Ford's work as Vice Chair of Conservation International. So I'm pretty sure the second group is Adam and the Ants and the third is Herman's Hermits.
But now where are we?
Quote: A Horseradish @ 10th September 2014, 12:29 PM BSTI couldn't find any detail on OR's link but I've discovered that in 2002, the entomologist Edward O. Wilson named a new ant species Pheidole harrisonfordi in recognition of Ford's work as Vice Chair of Conservation International. So I'm pretty sure the second group is Adam and the Ants and the third is Herman's Hermits.
But now where are we?
Thought I had explained it, and I think you may be looking too hard at ORs link.
What you have got to do is forget the personalities, for eg. Bill Gates' flower fly (Eristalis gatesi), and think about the animals that are named after them.
So, say there is a group of them (insect, flower or whatever) that are more successful in their evolution or surroundings than others that may be say in decline, then that group can be said to have something in common.
Which is borne out in your original query:
"Taken as a group, Adolf Hitler, George Bush, Kate Winslet and Roy Orbison are more successful than Adam's companions Harrison Ford and Theodore Roosevelt, and Herman's pals Diogenes and Michael Jackson."
Yes?
Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 10th September 2014, 4:19 PM BSTThought I had explained it, and I think you may be looking too hard at ORs link.
What you have got to do is forget the personalities, for eg. Bill Gates' flower fly (Eristalis gatesi), and think about the animals that are named after them.
So, say there is a group of them (insect, flower or whatever) that are more successful in their evolution or surroundings than others that may be say in decline, then that group can be said to have something in common.
Which is borne out in your original query:
"Taken as a group, Adolf Hitler, George Bush, Kate Winslet and Roy Orbison are more successful than Adam's companions Harrison Ford and Theodore Roosevelt, and Herman's pals Diogenes and Michael Jackson."
Yes?
Yes as in totally blank initially. Totally blank. But now I've discovered that George Bush is the name for a species of slime-mold beetle. As are Cheney and Rumsfeld. Genuinely. So I think if Adolf, Kate and Roy are beetles too - or shall we say "Beatles" - then the first group is probably The Beatles.
Which indeed was more successful in record sales than the second group, Adam and the Ants, that is, assuming Theodore Roosevelt is an ant like Harrison Ford, and more successful than the third group, Herman's Hermits, that is, if Michael Jackson is a hermit crab as well as Dodgy Knees.
So, yes, it would possibly work, as you say, in evolutionary terms - ie beetles are a more successful species - but also record sales. Not that I have total proof yet of the intended parallel. Agree?
Glaringly obvious!
Quote: beaky @ 10th September 2014, 8:53 PM BSTGlaringly obvious!
Quote: A Horseradish @ 10th September 2014, 8:47 PM BSTYes as in totally blank initially. Totally blank. But now I've discovered that George Bush is the name for a species of slime-mold beetle. As are Cheney and Rumsfeld. Genuinely. So I think if Adolf, Kate and Roy are beetles too - or shall we say "Beatles" - then the first group is probably The Beatles.
Which indeed was more successful in record sales than the second group, Adam and the Ants, that is, assuming Theodore Roosevelt is an ant like Harrison Ford, and more successful than the third group, Herman's Hermits, that is, if Michael Jackson is a hermit crab as well as Dodgy Knees.
So, yes, it would possibly work, as you say, in evolutionary terms - ie beetles are a more successful species - but also record sales. Not that I have total proof yet of the intended parallel. Agree?
Er, I think so. >_< Are you sure it is not you that write those questions on Brain of Britain?
You've effin confused me.
Ahhhh, got it - parallel universe?
Not when the train is in the station?
Only when you raise your left leg?
Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 10th September 2014, 9:31 PM BSTEr, I think so. >_< Are you sure it is not you that write those questions on Brain of Britain?
You've effin confused me.
Ahhhh, got it parallel universe?
Nah. I downloaded that one from the BBC website from a selection and didn't look at the answer. In fact, I'm not sure where the answers are. They are from "Round Britain Quiz" which I've dipped into from my early teens when I didn't even understand a lot of the words they were using. It used to have a woman on it who was quite brilliant and became legendary in that sphere. Irene - pronounced Ireni - Thomas.
I have used that show as a yardstick over the decades to see how much I've acquired - or not. If I'm really lucky, I can solve one in a show and get several bits maybe of two or three others. That's about it and they have probably dumbed it down slightly during the many years it has been broadcast on R4.
I will admit to having tried to invent a few questions myself just for fun but only about three have been quite successful. I mentioned it because I've seen "Only Connect" about twice so I'm not familiar with it but on paper it is fairly similar. I thought, therefore, that it could be of some interest to you.
"Brain of Britain" is different. It's general knowledge which I'm not all that hot on because I concentrate on just a few areas. GK is also like crossword puzzles - a lot depends on whether you are of a similar mindset to the compiler. I struggle with "Brain of Britain" more than with R2 of "Mastermind". I've never wanted to take part in anything of that kind but have done many pop music quizzes in social club settings.
Perhaps in the Phraton Universe you are the writer for Brain of Britain?
