Langham, can we forgive him? Page 18

Quote: manchester's trendy chorlton @ April 28 2008, 12:54 PM BST

To equate being a paedophile with sam fox at 16, or any other glamour model of that age, is ridiculous. To have sex with a girl between the ages of 14 and 16 would be classed as sex with a minor - entirely different to paedophillia.

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It's paedophillia. And you sign the sex register. Sex with a boy or a girl under 16 makes you a paedophile in Britain. Statutory Rape in most American states. Europe is more liberal. The age of consent is 14 in Germany, Iceland, Croatia, Lithuania, Bosnia, Austria and a few other places. It's 15 in France and 13 in Spain. In Austria, sex is permitted from the age of twelve if no penetration takes place.

Quote: M Lewis @ April 28 2008, 12:09 AM BST

How you deal with that in society i have no idea. i wonder, if i was born to a culture where people only had sex with donkeys and me having sex with a woman would be regarded disgusting.....would i risk rape or just get on with banging eeyore? .... however, along comes the Internet and suddenly you can get hold of tabo human porn! can i resit that? i guess pretty hard, especially if i have to put up with a donkey 9-5.

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Quote: Charley @ April 28 2008, 5:49 PM BST

I dont give a f**k what people do with my picture. I am an adult & I understand the complex sexual nature of Humans. However if someone was getting off on a pic of my kids (As children) I would kill them.

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Charley, the following people have been wanking off over pictures of your kids:

Tony Blair
Harriet Harman
Ricky Gervais
James Corden
Mark LaMarr
Michael Parkinson
Dawn French
Melanie Phillips
Barbara Amiel
Catherine Tate
Donald Rumsfeld
Condoleeza Rice
Hugh Edwards

Ken Livingstone tried to knock one out but couldn't get wood because your kids were 'too ugly'.

I dread the day when the Aarons and M Lewises rule this world and we'll all look back at the naughties and say "remember back then when we were all persecuted for our beliefs, like the gays? Well, I've got to get back to the missus, she needs help with her homework again."

VVV I have no idea what you're talking about

Mark hasn't even joined this conversation, has he?

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Oh, good edit Retinend. Now your post makes sense and mine doesn't. Ta.

Quote: Godot Taxis @ April 29 2008, 1:59 AM BST

It's paedophillia.

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Paedophilia isn't attraction to sixteen year olds with big tits, it's specifically a sexual attraction to prepubescent children.

Quote: Retinend @ April 29 2008, 6:01 PM BST

Paedophilia isn't attraction to sixteen year olds with big tits, it's specifically a sexual attraction to prepubescent children.

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YOu've missed the point (and with childish wailing about persecution i'm inclined to leave you wallowing in your inaccurate assumptions...however) The issue with sam fox was that there is a area between normal heterosexual desire and paedo desire. Sam fox at 16 is fair game but you don't have to look much younger to find yourself in paedo land. This area is far smaller than that which exists between gay sex and non-gay sex.

and its all very well giving your exact definition of paedophilia but MY original post was raising the issue of the sensitivity around the topic and someone with a load of pics of a 13 year old would be in big trouble...despite the proximity in age to that person and a 16 year old.

Quote: M Lewis @ April 29 2008, 6:25 PM BST

YOu've missed the point (and with childish wailing about persecution i'm inclined to leave you wallowing in your inaccurate assumptions...however) The issue with sam fox was that there is a area between normal heterosexual desire and paedo desire. Sam fox at 16 is fair game but you don't have to look much younger to find yourself in paedo land. This area is far smaller than that which exists between gay sex and non-gay sex.

and its all very well giving your exact definition of paedophilia but MY original post was raising the issue of the sensitivity around the topic and someone with a load of pics of a 13 year old would be in big trouble...despite the proximity in age to that person and a 16 year old.

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I didn't miss the point. GODOT TAXIS was saying that if you have sex with someone under the age of consent, then you go on "the register"; therefore you are a paedophile, before going on to list the ages of consent in different countries. I was saying that that wasn't true. I was siding with Manchester's Trendy Chorlton, that having a wank over Sam Fox at 16 isn't paedophilia.

I should think it very much depends on whether you're talking legally, or realistically.

Quote: Retinend @ April 29 2008, 5:54 PM BST

I dread the day when the Aarons and M Lewises rule this world and we'll all look back at the naughties and say "remember back then when we were all persecuted for our beliefs, like the gays? Well, I've got to get back to the missus, she needs help with her homework again."

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I had several glasses of wine yesterday by the way.

I would still kill everyone & I am starting with Godots list.
I stand by everything I said though. Even if I rambled myself a bit. I have gone & got myself Dave Disease.
I still think there is a huge cock floating about around here. Its a COK O SAUROUS!

Could you miss off Ricky Gervais, as you killing him would put a massive crimp in my plans to marry him.

Quote: M Lewis @ April 29 2008, 6:25 PM BST

YOu've missed the point (and with childish wailing about persecution i'm inclined to leave you wallowing in your inaccurate assumptions...however) The issue with sam fox was that there is a area between normal heterosexual desire and paedo desire. Sam fox at 16 is fair game but you don't have to look much younger to find yourself in paedo land. This area is far smaller than that which exists between gay sex and non-gay sex.

and its all very well giving your exact definition of paedophilia but MY original post was raising the issue of the sensitivity around the topic and someone with a load of pics of a 13 year old would be in big trouble...despite the proximity in age to that person and a 16 year old.

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Law is law. If it is illegal to look at something then accept it MLewis. You are not Judge & Jury. These laws have been set up to protect.
If the law changed to the legal age of 15 then so be it.
Chill out & go swimming without your kids.

Quote: zooo @ April 29 2008, 8:24 PM BST

Could you miss off Ricky Gervais, as you killing him would put a massive crimp in my plans to marry him.

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Ok Ricky can live.

Thanx!

Quote: Charley @ April 29 2008, 8:28 PM BST

These laws have been set up to protect.

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That's rubbish. No matter what any government might have you believe, laws are there to hinder and restrict, not protect.

(Mostly.)