They should attach guns to all the CCTV cameras dotted around town centres and everyday someone is randomly picked to operate them. They can just pick off anybody they want, smokers, litterlouts, teenagers, vandals, fat people, the cast of TOWIE.
This doesn't relate to anything, just a thought.
Quote: Kenneth @ August 16 2012, 12:59 PM BSTNo. One of my best friends for many years thoughtfully badgered me to quit smoking, quit heavy nightly drinking till dawn and to cut my long hair.
I get it, Keep Fit Kenneth, you are happier now then in your previous incarnation. But personally I like to be given a choice about my lifestyle. Just as imposing cigarette smoke on others is unacceptable, so is imposing the opposite.
The hippy liberal types are always banging on about tolerance, but as usual, it's tolerance for their own agendas.
Quote: Lee @ August 16 2012, 1:02 PM BSTThey should attach guns to all the CCTV cameras dotted around town centres
Town centres - ah, I love you regional types with your designated zones of population density. It is adorable. <3
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ August 16 2012, 12:22 PM BSTimagine the hypocritical furor if they tried to make McDonalds or Cadburys packaging completely anonymous.
I imagine most people wouldn't actually care.
Quote: zooo @ August 16 2012, 12:45 PM BSTNow they ARE cool.
I used cigarette holders (filters) for years to stop my fingertips from going yellow and my teeth from going black. The fact that they look cool is neither here nor there. When you pass out drunk with one of the bastards in your fingers, the melting plastic really burns into the skin. I still have 'uncool' scars from that on my fingers.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ August 16 2012, 1:08 PM BSTTown centres - ah, I love you regional types with your designated zones of population density. It is adorable. <3
*aims camera at R.C*
Quote: Lee @ August 16 2012, 1:11 PM BST*aims camera at R.C*
I'd have to venture into one of your quaintly named town centres first. Maybe next time the Radio One Roadshow hits your tiny patch of nothingness, I can sneak in with the crowds of locals unbelievably excited that something, anything, is happening in their pedestrian part of the country.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ August 16 2012, 1:08 PM BSTThe hippy liberal types are always banging on about tolerance, but as usual, it's tolerance for their own agendas.
They're only trying to find ways to stop children getting into something that damages their health and gives nothing positive in return (Unless you count bad breath and cancer as a positive). They shouldn't ban it, I'd be against that, but trying to find ways to make it less attractive to people who haven't started yet seems like a decent idea.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ August 16 2012, 1:14 PM BSTThey shouldn't ban it, I'd be against that, but trying to find ways to make it less attractive to people who haven't started yet seems like a decent idea.
Yes, banning things is always the answer to every problem. It's weird how the same arguments don't hold the same biased water when put against the legalisation of cannabis debate. Hence my agenda accusations. (But not of you personally, I can't remember your stance of giving children pot)
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ August 16 2012, 1:14 PM BSTquaintly named town centres first.
I have found that most towns have a centre, a most inner point if you will. It works with cities as well.
Driver, take me to the most inner point of this city.
You mean "city centre"?
No, I mean where all the shops and restaurants are.
Yeah, I'll just warn you though, you will be in the centre of the city.
Then why call it city centre?
I have literally no idea. Makes no f**king sense to me??
Quote: Lee @ August 16 2012, 1:34 PM BST[i]Driver, take me to the most inner point of this city.
You mean "city centre"?
No, I mean where all the shops and restaurants are.
Get into a cab in London and say 'the city centre' and you'll be met with a barrage of questions - 'The City of London? The Square Mile? The West End? Westminster? Leicester Square? Oxford Street? The Strand? Drury Lane? Holborn? Etc.'
Depending on what you want, London has many city centres.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ August 16 2012, 1:08 PM BSTI get it, Keep Fit Kenneth, you are happier now then in your previous incarnation. But personally I like to be given a choice about my lifestyle. Just as imposing cigarette smoke on others is unacceptable, so is imposing the opposite.
The issue is plain packaging for cigarettes. No one is proposing a ban on smoking or freedom of choice. And yes, rather than waking up in a bar, removing a melted cigarette filter from my fingers, ordering another drink and lighting another cigarette, it's much better to wake up early in my own bed, feeling healthy (no coughing up black phlegm, no red eyes, no constant bleary headache) and go for a swim or a run to start the day.
Quote: Kenneth @ August 16 2012, 1:42 PM BSTwaking up in a bar, removing a melted cigarette filter from my fingers, ordering another drink and lighting another cigarette
And that's part of the problem, your previous dilemma just sounds so cool. 
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ August 16 2012, 1:08 PM BSTTown centres - ah, I love you regional types with your designated zones of population density. It is adorable. <3
It's quite nice out here in The Provinces . . .
I hid my 10 a day from my kids, one smokes (peer/school pressure) One does not and nags me. Not saying it's healthy for anyone, but obesity is not good and that affects 70% of school kids, the NHS spends a fortune on diabietes treatment due to weight problems.
We have not touched alcohol problems-re violence, breakdown of families and the cost of that.
The Government has decided on massive cut-backs on Health Care so we will all become ill with not much treatment. 