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Pinched ideas? Page 5

I've never really thought Oasis sound that much like The Beatles to be honest.

There's a lot in that article that's overinflated balls. The claims that T.S. Eliot was worthless because he quoted Shakespeare are particularly bizarre. Eliot would have expected an intelligent reader to pick up on the reference, so I don't know where the author here is going with that expose.

But that's by the by. I hear the "who's going to nick my ideas" line a lot. But it's important to remember two things:

1. Most professional writers have a hard enough time finding the hours, days and money to realise their own lovingly nurtured concepts. Everyone has bottom drawers packed with stuff they want to do. There really aren't the hours in the day left to nick other people's ideas.

And

2. Every time people make an ill-advised claim of plagiarism, it makes it easier for producers, agents and performers to refuse to read unsolicited work. Which isn't in the interest of any aspiring writer, no matter how original or world-beating their ideas.

Well 1. fanciful. 2. Wrong. Ideas are nicked all the time in TV. Fact. :)

Well, as you like. Only trying to help.

Quote: Marc P @ July 3 2011, 11:15 PM BST

Well 1. fanciful. 2. Wrong. Ideas are nicked all the time in TV. Fact. :)

Please spill the beans on some of the offenders. Which ideas have been nicked?

Quote: evan rubivellian @ July 4 2011, 6:10 PM BST

Please spill the beans on some of the offenders. Which ideas have been nicked?

I wrote a sitcom about a flat share once, sent it to the BBC and they rejected it. Is that enough beans for you. I never did know how many beans made five.

Doth make me laugh, people talking about "original" ideas..

Slapstick? Sitcom? Sight gags? Comic characterisation of minorities? Puns?

Aristophanes/Chaucer/Shakespeare etc.

I take it, one of those came up with the 'sh*t in a top-hat' gag, then ?

No doubt they did..

Doth make me laugh, people talking about "original" ideas..

Well, quite. It's worth remembering that execution is king. Turning an "idea" into six twenty-eight minute eps packed with developed characters, incident and (let's not forget) jokes is the bit that earns you the money and the respect.

There are, after all, a fairly finite number of "sits". Which is why the most familiar - offices, flatsharing, relationships - come up time and time again. It's what you do with it that counts.

Gosh, don't I come up with a lot of "important things to remember". Apologies for coming over like a pompous arse.

But I do worry about plagiarism accusations coming back to bite writers. There are times when we all - no matter where we are on the food chain - need someone who doesn't know us well (if at all) to read a script and hopefully fall in love with it. A culture where producers, agents and performers are so frightened of getting sued that they won't do this helps nobody. Our comedy industry is so much more open than that in the States, and that's surely something worth preserving.

Quote: MrWriterLikeInTheSong @ July 4 2011, 9:35 PM BST

Well, quite. It's worth remembering

please can you stop telling us what to remember, I mean please.

Quote: MrWriterLikeInTheSong @ July 4 2011, 9:35 PM BST

execution is king. Turning an "idea" into six twenty-eight minute eps packed with developed characters, incident and (let's not forget)

Quote: MrWriterLikeInTheSong @ July 4 2011, 9:35 PM BST

Turning an "idea" into six twenty-eight minute eps packed with developed characters, incident and (let's not forget) jokes is the bit that earns you the money and the respect.

Lets not forget is that like please remember I mean I did ask nicely!

Money and respect eh? Tell us more?

Quote: MrWriterLikeInTheSong @ July 4 2011, 9:35 PM BST

Apologies for coming over like a pompous arse.

Ah okay.

Quote: MrWriterLikeInTheSong @ July 4 2011, 9:35 PM BST

But I do worry about plagiarism accusations coming back to bite writers.

Do you run some kind of support group?

Quote: MrWriterLikeInTheSong @ July 4 2011, 9:35 PM BST

There are times when we all - no matter where we are on the food chain - need someone who doesn't know us well (if at all) to read a script and hopefully fall in love with it.

Fair point. F**k all to to do with ideas being nicked in TV or the article which you dissed. Knowing how the wheels turn doesn't stop you being a successful engineer.

Eh?

Quote: Park Bench @ July 4 2011, 8:20 PM BST

I take it, one of those came up with the 'sh*t in a top-hat' gag, then ?

No, that was me.

Park Bench looks like a white David Haye in his pic

He stole my identity and changed it to black, thinking noone would notice !!!

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