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Sitcom Trials Manchester 2011 - scripts invited Page 23

This voting process was almost as difficult as writing the script, and it feels odd for a no-hoper like me to be making judgements on the work of other writers. I've tried to look for the positives, to bear in mind the brief, and to ask myself if I could see these scripts being performed live at the Lass O'Gowrie.

"3 Bitches" MAYBE
Good gag rate, nicely written, and good to see three female characters carry the whole thing, but this kind of Ladette comedy doesn't engage me, sorry. I can, however, see the audience reacting favourably.

"Agent of Chaos" NO
Rod is clearly a character that's been developed, and there's a vague semblance of a plot, but it felt a bit slapdash and first draft, sorry to say.

"Amateurs" MAYBE
Nicely written - has a gently macabre tone which is appealing. But I couldn't see a series in this because it's more like a short play.

"And it's Life and Life Only" MAYBE
Some good jokes ("By 'seduce', I assume you mean 'terrorize'?" / "It's a thin line."), but all the characters sound the same, I've seen this thing a million times (most recently "The Inbetweeners"), and nothing especially interesting happens. Also, where's the cliffhanger/resolution?

"An Ex-Rated Date" NO
The QI/peanut stuff is good, and relationship sitcoms certainly have an audience. But there's no unique thing about this, no twist on an old format.

"Analysts" YES
Terrific structure, well-defined and interesting characters, lots of action and gags, very good use of a live theatre environment. Just cut the last line, because it's insufferable.

"Apocalypse John" MAYBE
A Zombie rom-com (perhaps riding the "Shaun of the Dead" wave) could certainly work. John and Gilbert are a good double-act. Nice cliffhanger. Just seemed to lack a bit of sparkle.

"As Sick as a Parrott" YES
I found this rather charming and amusing. Characters were engaging and distinctive, and the jokes were funny. Easy to see this as a series. Good stuff.

"Bi-Polar" MAYBE
"In the snow? Alone? With the penguins so restless?" Lovely idea for a sitcom, and I liked the banter between Inigo and Doug. But not much really happens, and it felt a bit rambling and overlength.

"Broken Records" NO
It perks up when the robbery happens, but immediately peters out again. Sitcom Trials brief says only 4 characters - this has 5. But there's potential here, and I wouldn't mind reading more episodes to see where they go.

"Caroline, R.I.P" NO
Quirky, a few cute lines and a good cliffhanger, but this seemed to me to have no "sit" and very little "com". Oddly, I could see this working as a short, low budget film.

"Checkpoint Dave" - YES
'Cause I wrote it.

"Cometh the Padre" NO
Very wordy and difficult to read. Also :"He strips off his clothes, shoves them in a bucket and sets them alight"? Impossible to stage, fails to meet the brief. However, there's some good lines and characterization.

"Dead Healthy" NO
Far too many short scenes and you've got a poor actor who has to play a corpse through the whole thing. Plus, it seems overlength.

"Environmentally Friendly" NO
Some nicely surreal pop culture gags, but the plot doesn't kick in until page 9 (when we should have already had a cliffhanger) and doesn't develop.

"Footlights" MAYBE
A bit post-modern, odd mix of the surreal and the crude, not sure if this works as a sitcom, but plenty of chuztpah.

"Four In A Gym" NO
Really long dialogue paragraphs, characters didn't leap from the page, it's too long.

"God Complex" MAYBE
Loved the weary and absent-minded God and Miss Goodbody, the takes-no-shit secretary. However, it does feel to be very long, not sure if it could be staged in 10 mins.

"Hardcow" MAYBE
More ladette stuff - not my thing at all, sorry - and a bit repetitive. What works, though, is the energy and punch of the writing, which could translate into strong performances, and carry the thing live.

"Highway to Hell" NO
I didn't buy into the rock musician characters, and it all felt a bit muddled and toothless. Nice idea for a sitcom, and the female characters are well drawn.

"Keith Lymingstone-Brown" YES
Exposition heavy beginning (which felt like a deliberate choice) leads to a witty and entertaining story. Keith and Phil are good fun, and Mrs L-B is even better.

"Lightning" MAYBE
Interesting set-up, Charlie is well characterised, reads fast. Cliffhanger is a bit of a damp squib and a fourth character is introduced far too late in the game.

"Living With Danger" MAYBE
Impractical staging issues (a fridge?), nice back and forth between Eddie and Danger Boy. The SFX explosion is well timed. Was there a cliffhanger bit? I might have missed it.

"Lo-fi" NO
Clearly this is lifted from a much longer script (which I think might be an enjoyable read), but since it has no plot or cliffhanger it doesn't meet the brief.

"Mates Rates" MAYBE
Way too long for the brief, but I quite liked the characters and I can see a more punchier draft working on stage.

"Middling: The Gate" MAYBE
Nicely written, but a low gag rate, no spin on the usual relationship sitcom, and Rachel enters the story far too late (meaning if it doesn't get a second act, the actress will have had nothing to do).

"No Prospect" NO
"Dick, a blond haired camp cockney in his early thirties minces in". The tone feels a bit odd (is it high camp?) and the conversations about daytime TV don't really catch fire, so all in all I wasn't quite sure what to make of it, sorry.

"Not On a School Night" - NO
Too many scenes and characters, couldn't find a cliffhanger, and lots of talking about stuff that would be nice to actually see.

"Old Man" NO
Clearly a TV script (and a well-written one) that needed to be re-drafted for a 10 minute script-in-hand live performance.

"Outgoings" YES
Charmingly dark, with two good female characters and some nice dialogue exchanges. Easy to stage, funny, doesn't outstay its welcome.

"Privilege" YES
"Im sorry I have to interrupt. Mr Privilege is here today to explain why he killed a panda, not why he participated in election fraud." Heh! Liked this one a lot. Strong characters, great jokes, a good plot.

"Reasons To Be Cheerful" MAYBE
Very gentle and wistful, lacks laugh-out-loud moments, couldn't really tell if it's too long (it felt a bit rambling). The puns aren't my kind of thing, but might work for a live audience.

"Rock Bottom" NO
No idea what the series is about, rough first draft feel to it, but a few lines hit the mark and a second episode might be tighter and more focussed.

"Shit Happens" NO
Is this Derek and Clive? Very scatological, and the waitress is a terrible part for an actress. However, it did raise a laugh or two.

"Shock Treatment" YES
Lime is a vivid creation, cliffhanger is good. Very appealing in its own surreal way.

"Singing The Blues - It's a Blunderful Life" MAYBE
Nicely written, strong characters and a good plot - but is this a series? Also, will the ghost of Frank Capra sue?

"SuperFood" YES
Nice plot, zips along, good gag rate. Got a tiny bit confusing in places, but the characters are amiable and give the actors something to get their teeth into. I could certainly see this working as a series.

"The OAP Bus" NO
Could see this working as a short stage play, but it's simply not funny enough for a sitcom, and doesn't have series potential.

"The Oldham Chronicles" NO
Good title, but it's very sleight on plot, and the female character is just there to be leered at. Bit short, too.

"The Pinkie Device" NO
Couldn't get to grips with this one at all, sorry, though I did sense that it had a radio play vibe.

"Theatre of Dreams" YES
Pleasingly unorthodox and larger-than-life. Beatrix is a fabulous character, Sebastian isn't far behind. The ornate, theatrical language is very enjoyable and very fitting. The writer's voice is distinctive, which is always a good sign.

"There Must Be Someone Else" NO
This is one of the reasons why it doesn't work for me: "(Knock on the door. Jenny enters. Damon has stopped spinning. He is stares at Jenny. He sticks his tongue out of the mask and slavers. He has his hand inside his large overcoat and is clearly pleasuring himself whilst moaning and gurgling.)" I just couldn't see any of that working on stage, I'm sorry to say.

"Treading Water" NO
Nothing really happens in this, and I'm sorry to say I lost interest because I think it needs to start with some action which propels the plot forward.

"University of Life" NO
These students lack spark, and there's too much sitting around chatting, but I liked a few of the dialogue exchanges.

"Urban Guerillas" MAYBE
I liked the idea, and the plot, but the cliffhanger comes in far too late and I'm not sure the whole thing could be staged in ten minutes.

Quote: swerytd @ June 25 2011, 6:04 PM BST

Surrounded by dyscalculics...

<shakes head>

Dan

Wot's one of them?

I thought all the scripts had something about them and none deserved a complete slagging off. As ever, it's all down to personal preference so here goes.

Middling The Gate - Too much chat in set-up. Good lines though. MAYBE
3 Bitches - Didn't relate to them. NO
Agents of Chaos - Semi-organised chaos. MAYBE
Amateurs - Wordy, not enough happening. NO
An ex-rated Date - Too static. NO
Analysts - Decent effort. MAYBE
And It's Life - Too much chat but not bad. MAYBE
Apocalypse John - Nice idea, tailed off at the end but YES
As Sick as a Parrot - Bit stereotyped but nice lines. MAYBE.
Bi-Polar - Snappy dialogue in static setting(s). MAYBE
Broken Records - Despite the robbery not much happens. NO
Caroline RIP - Too wordy. NO
Checkpoint Dave - Good idea. Snappy dialogue. YES
Cometh the Padre - Good moments and interesting lead character. MAYBE
Dead Healthy - John annoyed me but some good dialogue. MAYBE
Enviromently Friendly - Too wordy not enough happens. NO.
Footlights - Interesting idea but too many old jokes. NO
Four in a Gym - Bit too static. NO
God Complex - Good gags but way too long. MAYBE
Hardcow - Sparky dialogue but going nowhere. NO
Highway to Hell - Plenty talk, little action. NO
Keith LB's AETT - Great idea, snappy dialogue. YES
Lightning - I agree with not voting for yourself but as everyone else has YES
Living with Danger - Didn't watch the showreel but enough on page to maybe make it work. MAYBE
Lo-Fi - Too static. NO
Mates Rates - Too many characters but some good dialogue. MAYBE
No Prospect - When something does happen it's not quite funny enough. NO
Not on a School Night - Too many characters but some good dialogue. MAYBE
Old Man - Good lines but unattractive characters. MAYBE
Outgoings - Great idea, nice lines. YES
Privilege - Too much setting up but good idea. MAYBE
Reasons to be Cheerful - Fun with too many puns. MAYBE
Shit Happens - I was going to mention Derek and Clive but Mr A. got there first. Not for me. NO
Shock Treatment - The makings of a memorable lead character. YES
Singing the Blues - Good stuff. YES
Superfood - Characters didn't engage me but some good lines. MAYBE
The OAP Bus - Decent ride but not sure where it's going. MAYBE
The Oldham Chronicles - Some good lines but went nowhere and no cliff-hanger. NO
The Pinkie Device - Ended up reminding me of that Mitchell and Webb detectives sketch but despite that some good lines- MAYBE
Theatre of Dreams - Kept seeing Alan Cumming in The High Life when Sebastian appeared. Good but ran out of steam. MAYBE.
There Must be Someone Else - Not my cup of ... but not bad. MAYBE
Treading Water - Lots of talk not a lot going on. NO
University of Life - More talking without much going on. NO
Urban Guerillas - Moved along nicely but maybe too many contemporary references. MAYBE

Quote: bushbaby @ June 25 2011, 6:32 PM BST

Wot's one of them?

Number dyslexic. I just wanted to use the word as you don't often get the chance :)

Dan

Quote: swerytd @ June 25 2011, 7:35 PM BST

Number dyslexic. I just wanted to use the word as you don't often get the chance :)

Dan

:) xxxxx

Here are my votes, good luck everyone.

Meddling - The conversation didn't push the plot forward quick enough. Dragged. NO

3 Bitches - Unappealing characters took away any real enjoyment of the script. NO

Agent of Chaos - I applaud the fact that it was a political theme as it is hard to get right, but the dialogue didn't flow at all which made it hard to get into. NO

Amateurs - Enjoyable read, I'm always a fan of the term 'crone', but it kind of fizzled out by the end, some nice lines though. MAYBE

An ex-rated date - The story didn't really go anywhere. NO

Analysts - Had some fun ideas, but it seemed like a skit rather than a sitcom, the ending makes it seem like a long joke for this one show rather than something that could continue. NO

And its Life and Life Only - Had some funny moments in it, but the characters were not particularly interesting. MAYBE

Apocalypse - Fun read, abit heavy on the directions but enjoyable none the less. YES

As Sick as a Parrot - Dated, didn't appeal to me at all. As soon as I saw the phrase ''t'mill'' I knew what I was gonna get. NO

Bi-Polar - Not much more than a long sketch really, but I didn't laugh at a few of the exchanges. MAYBE

Broken Records - I was hoping for alot from this as the record shop location could have been used to great effect, but the characters we not particularly interesting. NO

Checkpoint Dave - The Cold War era setting could have been a great base for jokes, but there wasn't many and the dialogue didn't really fit with the characters. NO

Cometh The Padre - It didn't really work as a sitcom, and I think it would be difficult to stage in a pub. NO

Dead Healthy - The premise was quite interesting, but was just biding my time before some 'Parrot Sketch' quotes. MAYBE

Environmentally Friendly - Takes too long to get started, and when it does start nothing really happens.NO

Four in a Gym - Nothing really happens story wise or character wise. NO

God Complex - Interesting idea but too long. After reading the beginning I almost wanted to scream ''give him a pen and move on!'' NO

Hardcow - Really unappealing characters, which is bad when it is only them talking to each other throughout. NO

Highway to Hell - Not my type of comedy, as soon as the fake hand came into it I was waiting for the inevitable 'handjob' gag. NO

Keith Lymingstone - Took a while to get going but once it did it was fun. MAYBE

Lightening - Moved along quite quickly with some interesting characters. YES

Living with Danger - Had a few funny lines but nothing really stood out for me .NO

Lo-fi - Nothing really happens other than talking NO

Mates Rates - The characters were too broad for me (the first 3 lines of one of the characters were all 'gay' jokes). It wasn't particularly interesting. NO

NO PROSPECT. Again, people just talking with dated humour. NO

NOT ON A SCHOOL NIGHT - Too many characters, goes against the guidelines. NO

Old Man -The characters were not particularly funny and nothing really happens. NO

Outgoings- Good ideas, but the characters are not engaging enough. MAYBE

Privilege - Liked it, had some fun lines and ideas, but doesn't stand out as a political comedy. MAYBE

ReasonstoBeCheerful - Too much punning, not enough action. NO

ROCK.doc -Rambled quite abit but was enjoyable. MAYBE

Shit Happens.pdf - Not my type of thing at all, characters were unappealing. NO

Shock Treatment - Really enjoyed this, found myself coming back to it a few times. YES

Singing the Blues - A decent effort, the characters were interesting but the story didn't do much for me. MAYBE

SuperFood.doc - Nice dialogue but the characters didn't do much for me. MAYBE

THE OAP BUS - Couldn't get stuck into this, the dialogue was abit hit and miss. NO

The Oldham Chronicles - A long sketch opposed to a sitcom. NO

The Pinkie Device - A bit too dated for me, but had its moments. MAYBE

THEATRE OF DREAMS - It is mine so the obligatory. YES

There must be someone else - Too laddy for me, showed promise though. NO

Treading water - Has good moments of dialogue but the plot didn't really appeal to me. MAYBE

University of Life - Really short, not much happens . NO

URBAN GUERILLAS - Enjoyable characters but some of the dialogue felt forced. MAYBE

I'm planning on starting my reviewing session soon but am a little puzzled by some of the other reviews.

Others have reviewed scripts called 'Caroline R.I.P.' and also 'Rock Bottom', but I've just downloaded all the scripts from the Yahoo group and neither script is there.

Am I missing something obvious that will make me feel like a massive eejit or have those two scripts since been removed from the Yahoo group?

Bushbaby removed her Rock Bottom script, so I guess Caroline R.I. was also removed.

Dan

Quote: swerytd @ June 25 2011, 9:09 PM BST

Bushbaby removed her Rock Bottom script, so I guess Caroline R.I. was also removed.

Dan

Thanks Dan. Makes the process of reviewing the scripts a little quicker I suppose.

Tea and biscuits are on standby...

It's the same with Footlights, that's there but is missing from most of the reviews...

It definitely beat the revised submission deadline...

Well done to all entrants and to all reviewers - I'm sorry to say it looks like I won't manage to look at them all but here's what I've got through so far in semi-random order.

3 Bitches
Some of the dialogue fails to convince - seems too forced "sitcommy" rather than real. Girls don't have voices that are distinct enough from each other. NO.

Agent of Chaos
This went off on several meanders, the cliffhanger didn't work and the character of Trisha seemed very weak; but the first few pages had a real fizz. MAYBE

Amateurs
Got a bit bored by it. Is this recurring sitcom territory, or a one-off short film? NO

An Ex Rated Date
Although there are some nice lines and it might work live it isn't a sitcom.. I have no idea what the "sit" actually is. It's worth getting someone to go through the spalling and grimmer as well because it isn't helped by the reader having to insert his own commas. NO

Analysts
I liked this. It grabbed me early and has a couple of great theatrical bits that could work very well. The only problem is it doesn't feel at all like a sitcom, and I have no idea what would happen "next week". MAYBE

And It's Life And Life Only
Goes to the trouble of setting it on a camping trip but never uses the setting - it's all people sitting around and talking. As far as I could gather the camping trip element was for the sake of one line about pitching a tent. NO

Apocalypse, John
Amusing premise and good cliffhanger. Some good lines - e.g. "toast". Not sure it's got more than this episode in it but could be worth another look. MAYBE.

As Sick As A Parrot
It feels like a 20 or 30 year old period piece but it isn't described as such. This isn't today's world of football. NO

BI-POLAR
Amusing - enough so to (almost) get over the two-people-talking problem. I have no idea what would happen in other episodes but... YES

Checkpoint Dave
Definite sitcom setting with definite sitcom characters. A definite YES.

FOUR IN A GYM
Where's the plot hidden? Lots of talking - some of it funny, but too much describing other events. NO.

Hardcow
Cliched characters. All talk and no action. NO

Living With Danger
Premise is okay but it doesn't deliver. No cliffhanger. NO.

lo-fi (3 scenes)
I know it's scenes rather than a full story but it goes nowhere and there's nothing fresh about these characters. NO

Middling - The Gate
Not a lot of laughs; Dialogue's okay but doesn't move on fast enough for me. Build up to the denouement was good but the reveal was a let down. NO.

Outgoings--No1ChristmasHit
Nice premise. Not keen on the James Bond links but overall pretty good. Mix of action and dialogue. YES.

Quote: Badge @ June 26 2011, 1:01 AM BST

As Sick As A Parrot
It feels like a 20 or 30 year old period piece but it isn't described as such. This isn't today's world of football. NO

Haha, it's the only thing I've ever written that WAS based on reality. The Premier League has obviously entered a different universe, but there are plenty of professional teams run on a wing and a prayer.

If it feels dated to you then fair enough, that's what this critical process is all about, but you're the second person to say that this worlds doesn't exist anymore. It does. Honest. That's why I wrote about it.

Quote: Jim Coulson @ June 26 2011, 6:11 AM BST

Haha, it's the only thing I've ever written that WAS based on reality. The Premier League has obviously entered a different universe, but there are plenty of professional teams run on a wing and a prayer.

If it feels dated to you then fair enough, that's what this critical process is all about, but you're the second person to say that this worlds doesn't exist anymore. It does. Honest. That's why I wrote about it.

I had a second look on the back of this. I think what made it feel dated overall for me was the character of Blenkinsopp. If you ask me to believe there are chancer businessmen who run lower league clubs without a clue then of course I buy into that. If you ask me to believe that they speak like him then I say it feels dated. On the plus side it's a sitcom with a plot (unlike many entrants). But still a no from me.

Quote: Badge @ June 26 2011, 11:29 AM BST

I had a second look on the back of this. I think what made it feel dated overall for me was the character of Blenkinsopp. If you ask me to believe there are chancer businessmen who run lower league clubs without a clue then of course I buy into that. If you ask me to believe that they speak like him then I say it feels dated. On the plus side it's a sitcom with a plot (unlike many entrants). But still a no from me.

Of course, completely understand your point of view and it is really valuable feedback. Obviously it's a grotesque, but if I try and develop this sitcom further it could be worth making it more subtle.

I didn't set out to write anything so traditional seeming and that's not really the sort of stuff I like, but a few people have commented on it being a bit old school. Not sure how that happened.

I think I may have to reassess my 'no negative reviews' policy because the 'Nos' that I've had have been as hugely useful as much as the 'Yeses' have been a nice ego boost.

Yeah, the no's are actually more valuable as feedback, regardless of the good-feeling 'yes'es.

And you're getting 20-30 people reading your work, which is no bad thing!

Dan

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