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Quote: zooo @ April 17 2008, 11:16 PM BST

You can't tell people what they're allowed to be upset about.

Also you can't say 'this is bigger, be upset about this and this only.'
Followed to its logical conclusion, that means we can only get up in arms over one single thing. The biggest and most terrible scandal in the world. Whatever that is.

(Cue joke about Bush, or summink.)

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Well said zooo.

Look sooty. Not everyone knows what's going on all around the world. I have got no time or inclination to read the Guardian.

Anyway - I've signed.

Quote: sootyj @ April 17 2008, 11:13 PM BST

There's a
And you're fixating on a f**king dog

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Well, not fixating, just passing views on something that has been brought to Ellie's attention.
When other situations are addressed by a great many charities and orginisations.

All that animals have to make people aware of such treatment is the f**king annoying advert on Sky, all the time.

I will agree that there are a great many, much more important issues out there. Issues that need both a rise in awareness and intervention. But for the mean time a petition can be signed to hopefully stop some-one from needlessly infliction pain on an innocent animal. (Possibly, if the animal if guilty of rape or murder please disregard the previous statements. but would we have to kill said animal in a humane way? Or in an animalistic way?)

And whats the deal with pugs? Who knowingly bred a dog that looks like it ran into a wall?
Yeah, that's cool. Arses.

Quote: zooo @ April 17 2008, 11:11 PM BST

Navy is much cooler than army.

They got style, yo.

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And the whole gay thing...

Quote: sootyj @ April 17 2008, 11:13 PM BST

There's a Nicaraguan performance artist called The Cat Eater. He eats cats. On this basis Habacuc is they're equivalent of Gerald Durrell.

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Quote: zooo @ April 17 2008, 11:16 PM BST

Followed to its logical conclusion, that means we can only get up in arms over one single thing. The biggest and most terrible scandal in the world. Whatever that is.

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Communism?

Quote: David Chapman @ April 17 2008, 11:21 PM BST

I have got no time or inclination to read the Guardian.

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You have just gone up in my estimations.

Quote: zooo @ April 17 2008, 11:16 PM BST

You can't tell people what they're allowed to be upset about.

Also you can't say 'this is bigger, be upset about this and this only.'
Followed to its logical conclusion, that means we can only get up in arms over one single thing. The biggest and most terrible scandal in the world. Whatever that is.

(Cue joke about Bush, or summink.)

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It's just charities, that smuggle donkeys out of war zones, but leave people nark me hugely.

Nicaragua is a horribly poor country, with 1000s of starving dogs people, and mass graves.

So focusing on one frankly dead, dog, that is staying dead. And when the story is so improbable, and daffy it's that much worse.

Hee, daffy.

Well, I can see why that's annoying. But there are already charities for people, so setting up others for animals isn't that terrible, is it?

But yeah, those psychotic animal rights activists that blow up scientists' families are, y'know, bad.
But it's that old extremism argument again. Don't hate a whole group of people just because the extremist end of that group are unreasonable nutters.

sootyj: Hush. Your weird leftie-anarchist arguments won't work against reasonable people!

zooo: Quite. People like that do much more harm than good to their cause. They are far more selfish than those whom they attack.

It's the focus thing.

I also have a hang up about silly urban myths attracting petitions.

Quote: Aaron @ April 17 2008, 11:38 PM BST

sootyj: Hush. Your weird leftie-anarchist arguments won't work against reasonable people!

zooo: Quite. People like that do much more harm than good to their cause. They are far more selfish than those whom they attack.

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Tad insulting that Aaron.

The donkeys thing is stupid really, mainly as they ask for more money than any other charity does on these "3 pound a moth " ads

I think the point is not that the dog died, (or didn't. whatever.) its the fact that the 'artist' could do this without anyone questioning it.

The thousands of starving people in many different countries are, in a way being helped as much as possible by all us little people ( yes i know more could be done but lets not get into that)
It may be the horrible fact that this guy/girl (I could't tell, either a really feminine looking phsyco killer dude, oreally ugly woman)
is habitually torturing any living thing with what seems like total impunity that scares us so much.
In the end, it's petition that might stop things like this happening.
I don't think a petition to stop the slaughter of Serbians, or the genocide of African villages would do a great deal to be fair.

Quote: sootyj @ April 17 2008, 11:40 PM BST

It's the focus thing.

I also have a hang up about silly urban myths attracting petitions.

Tad insulting that Aaron.

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Agreed, that is a little conceited isn't it?

Well if he was savagely treating an animal in public that would question public morality.

But most of us cheerfully eat bloated animals, raised in the dark, crawling on shattered limbs, eating their minced up children, before being killed in terror, and agony. A bit of public animal cruelty could have a sobering effect on our attitudes to animals.

Shame it's an urban myth.

Whoa, way morbid.
Mostly things like that are outlawed. But we're aware that it still happens in various places.
Still I do love a nice steak. And I'm top of the food chain, so I win!

And what's the deal with mentioning as many '3rd world' countries as possible. There aren't any prizes sooty.

Time for your medication me thinks.

OR...

we could all have a nice big cuddle instead?

I'm up for one...

I like cuddles too.

yay!

*jumps on*

*catches zooo*
Dude! Did you lose wieght?

I only mentioned Nicaragua, are you still taking your pills?

And I used to do agricultural work for a shortish while, so the reference to animal suffering thats from the horses mouth.

I just hate hypocrisy. Show me a sausage and I ignore the suffering, show me a sickly donkey and I get upset.

Frankly the Koreans have the only half way sane approach to stray dogs.

And accepting silly urban myths at face value. Chris Morris is gonna getcha, oh yes he is.