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Quote: DaButt @ November 4 2008, 2:35 PM GMT

Amen, brother. I'll be flying to Florida in a few hours and I don't intend to turn on the radio or watch any television. With any luck I won't even know who won until I wake up at my parents' house tomorrow morning.

It's not exactly difficult predicting who'll win.

Don't be sure, polling and voting aren't the same.

Besides aren't all those voting machines programed to be racist.

Quote: sootyj @ November 4 2008, 2:56 PM GMT

Don't be sure, polling and voting aren't the same.

They pretty much are.

Isn't there a thing called the Bradley effect?

Where people develop rashes and convulsions if they vote for a black candidate?

Quote: sootyj @ November 4 2008, 2:56 PM GMT

Besides aren't all those voting machines programed to be racist.

I do like the implication that a non-Obama vote is a racist one.

Quote: sootyj @ November 4 2008, 3:00 PM GMT

Where people develop rashes and convulsions if they vote for a black candidate?

Does that include other black people? Or by 'people' do you mean white people.

Quote: sootyj @ November 4 2008, 3:00 PM GMT

Isn't there a thing called the Bradley effect?

Where people develop rashes and convulsions if they vote for a black candidate?

Yeah, but that Bradley Effects never been proven convincingly. The evidence appears more anecdotal.

Quote: Aaron @ November 4 2008, 3:01 PM GMT

I do like the implication that a non-Obama vote is a racist one.

Not at all, more thinking about the stories of how these machines could be reprogrammed.

Especially the ones with no paper trails......

Funny thing is Barrack is quite a bit to the right of Cameron on manythings,

Quote: zooo @ November 4 2008, 3:01 PM GMT

Does that include other black people? Or by 'people' do you mean white people.

Aparently it affects every one equally.

But with secret ballots you'd never really be able to tell.

Quote: sootyj @ November 4 2008, 3:03 PM GMT

Not at all, more thinking about the stories of how these machines could be reprogrammed.

Especially the ones with no paper trails......

Funny thing is Barrack is quite a bit to the right of Cameron on manythings,

American politicians have always been to the right of our lot. That's why it's so amusing hearing rightwingers accuse Obama of being a Marxist or even Socialist.

Hooray for socialist UK!

Let's shoot the bankers, nationalise the toilet roll and go on a general strike against everything.

Quote: chipolata @ November 4 2008, 3:04 PM GMT

American politicians have always been to the right of our lot. That's why it's so amusing hearing rightwingers accuse Obama of being a Marxist or even Socialist.

Not really. Individual policies or ideas can be more left whilst the overall political stance of the candidate is further right.

Quote: Aaron @ November 4 2008, 3:11 PM GMT

Not really. Individual policies or ideas can be more left whilst the overall political stance of the candidate is further right.

Huh?

I'd be pressed to think of anything Barrack's interested in that would interest Marx.

Except maybe the immigration stuff. But he's similar to McCaine and Bush on those areas.

Quote: sootyj @ November 4 2008, 3:13 PM GMT

I'd be pressed to think of anything Barrack's interested in that would interest Marx.

Except maybe the immigration stuff. But he's similar to McCaine and Bush on those areas.

When the right accuse him of being a Marxist, they're not basing it in reality, merely trying to smear him.

Hello everyone! Are we on an American election discussion, because if so I've just escaped that for the day.

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