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Quote: Marc P @ November 25 2010, 11:37 PM GMT

Yeah, that's what it is. We all want to be married to Alf. living with Vic, working with Basil, being a servant to blackadder, being a genie/witch serving their master, being a once rich aristo living next door to a european someone or other who has bought your old family pile, being a bank manager who seizes the opportunity of a war to get some credibility that nobody acknowledges.

Top tip: Don't let anybody tell you what not to write. Just do it and if it don't get made... hey :)

*cues theme to Steptoe and Son*

Quote: Veronica Vestibule @ November 25 2010, 11:33 PM GMT

I don't know the American series but a quick Google search suggests it stars a slim, fit, handsome, 30-something guy who plays a recently disbarred lawyer and, as such, will certainly be a babe-magnet at the college. Unless I'm much mistaken, your average mature student in Britain of somewhat homelier aspect. If you're going to reflect that average mature student in your casting, it's doomed.

Yes, because the one thing that links all succesful British sitcoms is the hotness of their casts.

Quote: Veronica Vestibule @ November 25 2010, 11:38 PM GMT

I wouldn't mind the repeat fees for Two Pints of Lager. Unimpressed

You are not shocking us here VV.

Quote: Marc P @ November 25 2010, 11:37 PM GMT

Yeah, that's what it is. We all want to be married to Alf. living with Vic, working with Basil, being a servant to blackadder, being a genie/witch serving their master, being a once rich aristo living next door to a european someone or other who has bought your old family pile, being a bank manager who seizes the opportunity of a war to get some credibility that nobody acknowledges.

If you read my posting a little more carefully, you see I didn't suggest any of the above.

I said living with or nearby (with visiting rights).

Laughing out loud

Quote: clueless @ November 25 2010, 11:39 PM GMT

*cues theme to Steptoe and Son*

And that one Laughing out loud

Quote: Veronica Vestibule @ November 25 2010, 11:40 PM GMT

If you read my posting a little more carefully, you see I didn't suggest any of the above.

Laughing out loud Laughing out loud Laughing out loud

How carefully do you suggest?

Quote: Marc P @ November 25 2010, 11:41 PM GMT

How carefully do you suggest?

Until you understand it?

Ah. I see. Yes. You didn't mean what you said. Sorry.

Quote: clueless @ November 25 2010, 11:39 PM GMT

*cues theme to Steptoe and Son*

I'd love to be able to nip in and out of Steptoe's yard and house whenever I wanted.

And Slade Prison too!

Laughing out loud

Quote: Marc P @ November 25 2010, 11:44 PM GMT

You didn't mean what you said.

I rarely do, Marc. Laughing out loud

Quote: Veronica Vestibule @ November 25 2010, 11:46 PM GMT

I rarely do, Mark. Laughing out loud

Always a fun type of person to talk to.

Quote: Veronica Vestibule @ November 25 2010, 10:59 PM GMT

The vital ingredient in sitcom is the audience's wish to be with the characters in the sit, sharing the com.

So true. I've always wanted to be a celibate priest living on a tiny island in the middle of nowhere....

[quote name="Veronica Vestibule" post="696369" date="November 25 2010, 11:46 PM GMT"]I'd love to be able to nip in and out of Steptoe's yard and house whenever I wanted.

And Slade Prison too!

Laughing out loud

But that's because the writers made some very appealing characters out of some very unlikely situations.

Quite right, Clueless.

The very essence of sitcom is (very often) that the main character is not happy in the situation.

To make it a successful sitcom, the public have to enjoy 'being with them' as they suffer.

That's the point I was making in my original post.

Just as a bit of cod market research but I'll mention it anyway...

I have a teenage daughter who has recently discovered... Ab Fab, Fawlty Towers and the Good Life. She loves ALL of them despite the fact the protagonists are much older.

She's seen a few Three Pints etc. but she's NEVER put them on series link whereas AbFab, Good Life, she has done... (and it's not parental guidance, she can quote South Park). It just appears that she appreciates drama more if it's age-specific, but not comedy... if it's funny, it's funny - they don't live in bubbles, they get the generational stuff.

Quote: Veronica Vestibule @ November 25 2010, 11:33 PM GMT

I don't know the American series but a quick Google search suggests it stars a slim, fit, handsome, 30-something guy who plays a recently disbarred lawyer and, as such, will certainly be a babe-magnet at the college.

Unless I'm much mistaken, your average mature student in Britain of somewhat homelier aspect.

If you're going to reflect that average mature student in your casting, it's doomed.

Look, you're wrong, if it's well written and funny, people will watch, whether they want to be the main character or not.

Quote: clueless @ November 26 2010, 12:32 AM GMT

I have a teenage daughter who has recently discovered... Ab Fab, Fawlty Towers and the Good Life. She loves ALL of them despite the fact the protagonists are much older.

Many teenagers express angst-fuelled contempt for their parents while simultaneously adoring an unconventional aunt, uncle or schoolteacher of similarly advanced years.

It's great that your daughter likes the above sitcoms but is she similarly smitten by 'Last of the Summer Wine' and 'Waiting for God'? I doubt it.

In 'Ab Fab', your main character is a most unconventional adult. One might say she's a teenager in an adult body.

In 'Fawlty Towers', your main character is another very unconventional adult.

in 'Good Life', your title-characters are unconventional adults in perpetual conflict with societal norms in general and their ultra-conservative neighbour in particular.

If the mature students in the proposed sitcom are going to be representative of the nation's mature students, I doubt they'll have much appeal for teenagers or younger people in general.

Quote: Matthew Stott @ November 26 2010, 7:37 AM GMT

Look, you're wrong, if it's well written and funny, people will watch, whether they want to be the main character or not.

I never mentioned wanting to be the main character.

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