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The Great Outdoors Page 3

Early days, but the show seems to lack warmth. There is a sense that received stereotypes are being retailed, rather than original characters constructed from a basis of personal observation or insight. Even within the narrow field of comedies about the outdoors, Heap's character has a precedent not just, as Griff observed, in Roger Tomlin in Nuts in May, but also in Robert Daws in Arthur's Dyke, which, in Daws antagonism to Pauline Quirke, also provides a template of sorts for the relationship between Heap and Jones.

In leadership sitcoms it is necessary to provide some sense of the character's motivation, and importantly their, redeeming qualities; Mainwaring, Brittas, Brent, even Fawlty, inspired an exasperated loyalty. I am not sure we are getting that yet from Heap, or any sense that there is anything holding the group together. I suspect the concept of Jones as the cuckoo in the nest would have worked better in creating interesting conflict if the group had been more cohesive at the outset.

So far it all seems a little too broad and lacking in affection, but I might give it another week to see if it grows.

Timbo has articulated some of the problems well, although I'm only judging on episode one. It also carried some yawning stereotypes about ramblers being real ale bores, sexual inadequates, ODC anoraks etc without even the warmth and empathy that Mike Leigh's characters had in Nuts in May 35 years ago.

However I laughed a few times and it went down very well with a couple of middle aged women I work with who don't usually watch BBC4.

I can see this being bumped up to BBC1 for 6 half hour episodes on Sunday evening.

No way, Jam & Jerusalem was awful, I actually laughed out loud at several points in this. I really don't get everyone's reaction, I can't be the only person that found it funny.

Quote: Nil Putters @ July 29 2010, 1:44 PM BST

No way, Jam & Jerusalem was awful, I actually laughed out loud at several points in this. I really don't get everyone's reaction, I can't be the only person that found it funny.

I found it quite funny.

Oh, good.

Quote: Nil Putters @ July 29 2010, 1:51 PM BST

Oh, good.

Unimpressed

I found it gently amusing.

Does that help?

:D I didn't mean that to sound to dismissive, sorry Matthew. :D

Quote: zooo @ July 29 2010, 1:53 PM BST

I found it gently amusing.

Does that help?

A bit. Did no one else laugh out loud? Oh well.

I know I did laugh out loud once. It was at something between the two teenagers, but God knows what.

Quote: Matthew Stott @ July 29 2010, 1:52 PM BST

Unimpressed

Haha, you've all made Stott really paranoid now.

Quote: zooo @ July 29 2010, 1:55 PM BST

I know I did laugh out loud once. It was at something between the two teenagers, but God knows what.

It was slightly weird how similar those two teenagers looked. Like they should be brother and sister, rather than him chasing after her.

Quote: Griff @ July 29 2010, 1:56 PM BST

I think my only real LOL might have been the "I'm used to handling livestock" line.

That was good, and Tom hurling the rabbit had me chucking even after it had finished.

Quote: Griff @ July 29 2010, 1:56 PM BST

No, I meant in tone, rather than quality. It was a cosy, slightly predictable sitcom with nothing about it likely to scare the horses. I did laugh a few times during it, and the characters were OK, but for me, it's far from appointment TV so far.

I think my only real LOL might have been the "I'm used to handling livestock" line.

I agree it was flawed but OK and had some good moments. In tone and characterisation it wasn't a million miles from Benidorm either.

I thought this was great last night. Some really funny moments. I shall be tuning in next week for sure.

Quote: Nil Putters @ July 29 2010, 1:54 PM BST

A bit. Did no one else laugh out loud? Oh well.

I thought it was really funny; I laughed out loud a lot. Very feel-good and funny comedy.

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