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This has thrown up a lot of interesting little questions about comedy now, like 'Is comedy now just too much like a business, and less of an art?' To me it looks like it is, when that putrid little maggot Jimmy Carr gets his lawyers to issue a warning to another comedian to stop using his joke, I think it shows a lot of them up to be no more than self interested businessmen who just happen to be in the (very lucrative) business of comedy.

Jokes have always been shared or nicked, their so called creators should take it as a compliment rather than getting all corporate and stressy about it, it doesn't look good for their carefully cultivated laid back, ultra liberal, left leaning image, it makes them look like f***ing hypocrites in truth. Can Carr or Ed Byrne comfortably stand up on stage and fashionably attack bankers again without looking just a little bit cheeky? Modern comedy itself is a bit of a joke in my book. Morning.

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ July 23 2010, 3:13 AM BST

Jokes have always been shared or nicked, their so called creators should take it as a compliment

This logic often gets used in other areas of the arts when someone's work gets appropriated, and someone else profits from it. Compliments don't pay the bills though, hence copyright laws.

Alfred are you genuinely comparing a few comics getting miffed over having their material nicked? With the massively irresponsible system of banking that caused international chaos?

Besides intellectual property is intellectual property.

I'm sure if you post one of his gags Milton Jones won't be down your way with a baseball bat. But if a succesful and wealthy comic like Cheggers does it, then he should be pissed off.

Apart from payment he may not want to be associated.

IP theft is so easy these days that it is threatening future production. Jokes which don't need to be downloaded are especially vulnerable.

I don't know if you write Alfred. But some big set making jokes can take weeks to write.

N.B. if Cheggers had any skill as a gag writer he'd be able to rewrite these gags such as to make it impossible to say he copied them.

The best thing to do is abolish Twitter. And Facebook. And jokes. And people.

Quote: Nogget @ July 23 2010, 6:58 AM BST

Compliments don't pay the bills though, hence copyright laws.

...which are some of the most complicated laws there are, and as a result are pretty weak as a protection and not that often used. You also need to be fairly wealthy in the first place to sue anyone under them. They are not a set of laws that many have great faith in. Many use them as a threat but don't actually trust them enough to follow through and pay for a lawsuit. This Chegwingate thing just supports how relatively little legal clout they have. Apparently he wouldn't have a case to answer, according to the experts.

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ July 23 2010, 9:13 AM BST

Apparently he wouldn't have a case to answer, according to the experts.

In that case, he must be innocent.

we,ll just have to hope shame works against an alcoholic with a small cock who gave noel edmonds a blow job allegedly

I find Chegwin to be a bit like Tony Blackburn. They have both adopted their caricature and become that caricature in real life. Brilliant! And sustainable!

Cheggers! Yay!

Very true, and there a few other celebs who've done the same thing. They are terrified of having to work for a living like you and me.

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ July 23 2010, 9:32 AM BST

Very true, and there a few other celebs who've done the same thing. They are terrified of having to work for a living like you and me.

A friend of mine hired a bit of equipment to some bands doing a gig in a club. He carried it along, set it up, sat and had a pint, went home, came back and watched the show, then unplugged it and carried it home again. £500. Some folks have to work all week for that. What is working for a living?

If 30,000 plebs follow Cheggers on twitter what does that tell us about us?

It's Janice Long I feel for, having Cheggars as a little brother.

Johnny Vegas did an excellent programme for Radio 4 last year about the ruthlessly competitive comedy circuit on the Spanish resorts in which comedians will copy whole swathes of your act and come in the next night and undercut you. Unconvincingly one comedian compared jokes to food ingredients and 'the way you tell em' as the finished meal.

Anyone else heard a story about Al Jolson who would get someone to copy down other comedians' jokes and get his lawyer to send them a threatening lettert claiming they were his and must never use them again.

What a charmer!

Quote: youngian @ July 23 2010, 9:57 AM BST

What a charmer!

You won't find that many 'charmers' in the entertainment business! Not off camera, anyway!

Twitter. It's Twitter. Not Radio 4, not Have I Got News For You. Somewhat of a fuss about nothing.

I agree with Aaron! :)

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