Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ May 1 2010, 8:53 PM BSTThe police have to be careful how they ask wearers to remove them. A Siekh policeman recently won a payout for being forced to remove his turban for a training excercise.
That's ridiculous too. It should be perfectly legal to disrespect somebody's silly superstitions.
Quote: zooo @ May 1 2010, 9:02 PM BSTA pregnant woman needed to do a wee.
But surely his helmet would have been a more apposite implement?
Wouldn't the turban have got soggy?
She didn't care. Selfish cow.
Hmm, sounds more to me like a weird fetish she had.
Hurrah and about bloody time. The idea wearing that ridiculous outfit is not a result of massive communal bullying and encouraging women to see them selves as inferior.
The law is there in part at least to protect people from their own stupidity or innability to make good choices. Banning the burka is right up their with making meths undrinkable or banning child porn as an example of a government saying firmly "you do not have the sense to make sensible decisions we will make them for you."
This shouldn't happen often, but some times it is neccasary.
Should face masks be banned?
There's no way of identifying her his/face.
Ban the bra too! How will we know there a nipples under there otherwise!?
Quote: Nogget @ May 1 2010, 9:45 PM BSTShould face masks be banned?
There's no way of identifying her his/face.
Yes they should be, in public. The law is about others being able to identify you and read your expressions when communicating, I think. All face coverings.
God I haven't seen this much deliberate liberal stupidity since the last time I had the misfortune to read the Independent. The sole good use for the Burqa is giving a disguise to feminist revoloutinaries in opressive Islamic states.
Restrictive individual dress that removes the ability to be an individual or express one's self is wrong. People who go along with it are indoctrinated and need help.
Imagine if they made all kids wear kids wear balaclavas to school?
Some truly Orwellian dictatorships used compulsory masks in prisons to remove the individuals sense of identity.
I haven't read all of these posts, so this might've already been mentioned, but what do people on here think of female Muslim surgeons not having to roll their sleeves up during surgery, even though infection is the number one cause of death in hospitals?
Oh, and what about the call to allow Siekh schoolboys the right to wear their traditional daggers on their belts at school?
Sikh boys carry symbolic Kirpans about the size of a 20p coin. Seems like a fair compromise carrying a full size knife would be silly.
Muslim students now wear disposable arm guards. Which are hygenic but have added a few hundred grand to the NHS bill (they seem weirdly popular with none Muslim staff from what I've seen). I suppose if it gets more drs can't be all bad,
That daggers case has already been decided against the use of them, I believe. It breaks our knife laws, that's it.
Haven't heard of the female Muslim surgeon one, are there any? Yes, same thing, our own law should over ride theirs if it protects them and others.
That assistant teacher lost her case for weariing her veil, so we are nearly there in law with a full public ban, only a mater of time.
Actually there's quite a few it's why it was such a big issue.
They're pretty expensive though. So frankly I think if you wear them you should pay for them.
N.B. the Iraqis used chemical weapons in the Iran Iraq war as bearded Muslim Iranians couldn't use gas masks. Go figure.
They look quite expensive - do professional Muslim women really care if somebody, presumably only well known colleagues and sedated patients see their forearms?? I mean how irrational and bordering on mental illness is that? That's beyond a neurosis in my book.
It's more a case of feeling right with yourself and your God. To sin in your heart is to sin in action so to speak.
Personally I think it's a load of nonsense. Most groups knuckle under when society sets immutable rules.
Personally I'd make halal meals and prayer opportunities privileges for good behaviour in prison not rights. Our whole supposedly liberal establishment in the face of the slightest inflexible religious belief.
Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ May 1 2010, 10:23 PM BSTThey look quite expensive - do professional Muslim women really care if somebody, presumably only well known colleagues and sedated patients see their forearms?? I mean how irrational and bordering on mental illness is that? That's beyond a neurosis in my book.
http://www.criticalenvironmentsolutions.co.uk/products.php?cat=56
About 50p each not that much. But I still think the user should pick up the tab.