Russell Crowe as Robin Hood Page 7

Quote: Dolly Dagger @ May 14 2010, 12:17 PM BST

Apparently he was most likely brought from North Africa during the Crusades and most likely converted to Christianty. There was some evidence in literature of the time of black people in the UK who, it seems, were treated very fairly. A document from Elizabeth I's reign however was moaning about there being "too many over here", so it seems the attitude had changed by the 16th century.

The episode's still on iPlayer I think.

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Thanks, I may give it a go.

Quote: chipolata @ May 14 2010, 12:21 PM BST

Post it up here. I'd loves to see it!

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HA.

Russell Crowe got a bit cheesed off with Mark Lawson when he criticized his accent in the movie.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2972245/Russell-Crowe-swears-on-BBC-over-Robin-Hood-accent-jibe.html

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ May 14 2010, 8:25 AM BST

All these Robin Hood movies are prety much the same aren't they? I'd like to see a realist Robin Hood film done like that Passion of the Christ film, all spoken in middle English.

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Wouldn't Robin Hood have probably spoken French?

I agree, though. There was a movie not long ago about King Arthur that was supposedly more historically accurate because it was set in late Roman Britain. I know that they can't give Arthur a Celtic accent, but the funniest aspect was that the invading Anglo-Saxon hordes spoke with a German accent.

Quote: Steve Sunshine @ May 14 2010, 1:24 PM BST

Russell Crowe got a bit cheesed off with Mark Lawson when he criticized his accent in the movie.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2972245/Russell-Crowe-swears-on-BBC-over-Robin-Hood-accent-jibe.html

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What a child.

Is bollocks a swear word commonly used in Australia?

Quote: deckard @ May 14 2010, 3:47 PM BST

Is bollocks a swear word commonly used in Australia?

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It's common, but quite mild. Like damn in America.

Quote: deckard @ May 14 2010, 3:47 PM BST

Is bollocks a swear word commonly used in Australia?

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Joe Aussie doesn't say bollocks, but instead says "bullshit". There's no popular obscene utterance in Skip lingo meaning balls.

Kenneth is my Aussie swearing and slang advisor.

Quote: deckard @ May 14 2010, 3:47 PM BST

What a child.

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Quite, although The Sun is rather childish by reporting: The New Zealander was being quizzed on Radio 4 about his dodgy Sherwood Forest accent when he lost his rag and yelled: "B****cks!" ... The Gladiator star raged: "You've got dead ears mate - seriously dead ears if you think that's an Irish accent."

Having listened to the audio, I didn't hear him yell or rage. Is Mark Lawson the interviewer the same Mark Lawson who wrote The Battle For Room Service and Idlewild? The former starts with several digs at the accents and dullness of Crowe's native Kiwiland.

Quote: deckard @ May 14 2010, 3:47 PM BST

Wouldn't Robin Hood have probably spoken French?

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I had a problem with a recent radio series, 'The Plantagenets', in which Henry l spoke English and used a lot of 'Anglo-Saxon' swearwords. We know he spoke French, and at that time the Anglo Saxons would have been subjugated under him, so it struck me as peculiar that he should swear in a manner we think of as Anglo-Saxon. Of course, I don't expect him to speak French in an English production, but it spoiled it a bit for me. It was as if Hitler had spoken in a Cockney accent.

Well, I'm not an expert but as far as I know Robin Hood would have spoken English yes, early Middle English, I believe. The populace did not speak French, the nobility did, apart from the rare line of Anglo Saxon nobilty, who were prized by the Normans because they kept better order of the 'old English' than many Norman French speaking barons could. When we get to Chaucer's time, Middle English has taken on many French words and most of the Norman aristocracy now speak Middle English instead of French.

That I believe also explains why Norman nobility/kings did indeed swear in Anglo Saxon. Strictly speaking it was in Middle English, but as they weren't supposed to swear or curse, they conveniently coined all swearing as Anglo Saxon, thus debasing the old race and culture at the same time. Today, people still use the term 'Anglo Saxon words' as a euphemism for swear words. Most of them are indeed Germanic in origin, S**t, p**s, f**k are all good solid Anglo Saxon words that survived from Old English to the morden day. Quite right too.

Just back from seeing said film.

Was a little disapointed.

Were you hoping for tights?

No tights anywhere!

Lines out the door at the cinema I went to yestersay pretty much all for Robin Hood, Hot tub time machine on the other hand attracted about 12 people.

Quote: Paul W @ May 16 2010, 5:54 PM BST

Lines out the door at the cinema I went to yestersay pretty much all for Robin Hood, Hot tub time machine on the other hand attracted about 12 people.

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But has Robin Hood got legs?

Quote: chipolata @ May 16 2010, 6:01 PM BST

But has Robin Hood got legs?

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Dunno, hot tub time machine doesn't seem to though.