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Quote: Tony Cowards @ January 14 2010, 3:20 PM BST

This might be heresy but "No Country For Old Men" was dull, dull, dull, personally I can't see what all the fuss was about.

We're in agreement. I thought that movie sucked and was dead boring. Definitely couldn't see what the fuss was about either. And this is coming from someone who likes all the other Coen bros films.

Am I the only one who has seen A Serious Man? I found it absolutely hilarious, one of my favourites of theirs. However I wouldn't be surprised if people disagreed, as most of my friends didn't care for it. I think you either love it or hate it, or you think it's okay.

I saw both No Country and A Serious Man. Love them both. The Coens definitely the masters of the surprise ending though!

The ending where it just kinda stops you mean?? :)

Quote: Marc P @ October 26 2010, 10:14 AM BST

The ending where it just kinda stops you mean?? :)

That's certainly the way both of those films felt watching them the first time in the cinema.

The first half of No Country is brilliantly realised. The rest of the movie is pretentious and hopeless. The Coens don't make great films - they make great set-pieces. They should stick to writing and art directing. All of their movies are far less than the sum of their parts with the possible exception of Hudsucker - which of course also had Raimi onboard.

The pre-credits sequence of Raising Arizona is a masterpiece - the rest of the film - though great in parts - is plodding. Fargo is cut from the same cloth as No Country - and Man Who Wasn't There - trying to wring high significance out of insignificant and formulaic events -like shining a Christmas fairy light on the human condition.

Quote: Godot Taxis @ October 26 2010, 4:29 PM BST

trying to wring high significance out of insignificant and formulaic events -like shining a Christmas fairy light on the human condition.

nice

Quote: Godot Taxis @ October 26 2010, 4:29 PM BST

The first half of No Country is brilliantly realised. The rest of the movie is pretentious and hopeless. The Coens don't make great films - they make great set-pieces. They should stick to writing and art directing. All of their movies are far less than the sum of their parts with the possible exception of Hudsucker - which of course also had Raimi onboard.

The pre-credits sequence of Raising Arizona is a masterpiece - the rest of the film - though great in parts - is plodding. Fargo is cut from the same cloth as No Country - and Man Who Wasn't There - trying to wring high significance out of insignificant and formulaic events -like shining a Christmas fairy light on the human condition.

He has a point, Compared to Woody who amongst the stuff makes stuff that is better than he knows how to do which is the point of an artist after all.

Quote: Godot Taxis @ October 26 2010, 4:29 PM BST

The first half of No Country is brilliantly realised. The rest of the movie is pretentious and hopeless. The Coens don't make great films - they make great set-pieces. They should stick to writing and art directing. All of their movies are far less than the sum of their parts with the possible exception of Hudsucker - which of course also had Raimi onboard. The pre-credits sequence of Raising Arizona is a masterpiece - the rest of the film - though great in parts - is plodding. Fargo is cut from the same cloth as No Country - and Man Who Wasn't There - trying to wring high significance out of insignificant and formulaic events -like shining a Christmas fairy light on the human condition.

I disagree about Fargo. It's a great movie and, unlike No Country, knows exactly how to end. And Blood Simple is a great James M. Cain style thriller. Although the rest of their output is patchy two classic films is more than most directors manage.

I really like their films, sadly im also a bit of a wimp where nastiness is involved, so by far my favourite is The Big Lowbowski and Brother Where Art Thou, which are both finely crafted in a way that most American films are not.

Quote: Godot Taxis @ October 26 2010, 4:29 PM BST

All of their movies are far less than the sum of their parts with the possible exception of Hudsucker

Really? I can think of half a dozen I prefer: Blood Simple, Raising Arizona, Miller's Crossing, Fargo, The Big Liebowski, Oh Brother Where Art Thou?

But yes in recent years they seem to have lost the art of story telling.

I saw No Country the other night. I thought it was interesting but deeply flawed. To be fair to the Coens, most of these flaws were inherent in the original novel which they exceptionally faithfully adapted. The film could almost have done with subtitles at certain points; I had to strain my ears over all the mumbling.
Of their other works, I did really like Fargo but have found the rest only intermittantly interesting.

Quote: Godot Taxis @ October 26 2010, 4:29 PM BST

The first half of No Country is brilliantly realised. The rest of the movie is pretentious and hopeless. The Coens don't make great films - they make great set-pieces. They should stick to writing and art directing. All of their movies are far less than the sum of their parts with the possible exception of Hudsucker - which of course also had Raimi onboard.

The pre-credits sequence of Raising Arizona is a masterpiece - the rest of the film - though great in parts - is plodding. Fargo is cut from the same cloth as No Country - and Man Who Wasn't There - trying to wring high significance out of insignificant and formulaic events -like shining a Christmas fairy light on the human condition.

Haven't seen every one of theirs yet I don't think but I agree a bit about them being scene makers and art directors rather than great narrative film makers. They are similar to Powel & Pressburger I'd say, who made very memorable films with their artistic stamp all over them but not necessarily very good ones all the time, unless you like gaudiness or pretention.

But with 'No Country', they made a really good effort I thought to end that patchiness and make a good narrative movie. I thought the ending worked actually, really well, it was a titchy bit pretentious maybe yes, but I saw it as the 'anti-ending' if you like, it made me think of Butch and Sundance and the typical heroic movie ending of going out with all guns blazing, when in real life they died peacefully, and the out of place 1960s jingly soundtrack it had, when No Country had none. It was a realist western trying to make big points with its stark realism, yes a bit pretentious still, but a piece of big film making, I thought. Thought it definitely deserved the Oscar.

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ October 27 2010, 4:56 PM BST

it definitely deserved the Oscar.

Was the Oscar for Worst Hairstyle?
I'd like to know what gun he was using, anyone?

I forget what you call it, but a compressed air bolt shooting gun (the bolt stays attached) they kill animals with in abatoirs, I believe.

Quote: Nogget @ October 27 2010, 5:04 PM BST

I'd like to know what gun he was using, anyone?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_bolt_pistol

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