Miranda - Series 1 Page 47

Quote: lofthouse @ September 2 2011, 9:13 PM BST

Wow! She should get you to write Series 3 as you're obviously much better at this kind of stuff than she is!

How many hit BBC sitcoms have you written/starred in like the multi award winning Miss Hart?

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I have written a half hour radio comedy episode as an exercise which was performed by a local amateur group and was well received. I also wrote a sitcom episode for a Channel 4 competition. Didn't win but the winners who wrote "Lame Ducks" said at one point their script was judged by 2 14yo boys which they found very humilating.
It's very difficult and I would prefer to write with a partner to get the highest standards possible.
Do I not have the right to say Miranda Hart doesn't perform well enough when Simon Cowell criticises performers when he has no performing talents whatsoever?

You certainly do have the right to say that! Just as lofthouse has the right to say what he said.

Ya I was only joshin' dude.

Not being serious!

It's just I think Miranda is so great I get a bit defensive when people criticise her in any way. Ignore me.

Quote: Yorick @ September 4 2011, 5:34 PM BST

I have written a half hour radio comedy episode as an exercise which was performed by a local amateur group and was well received. I also wrote a sitcom episode for a Channel 4 competition. Didn't win but the winners who wrote "Lame Ducks" said at one point their script was judged by 2 14yo boys which they found very humilating.
It's very difficult and I would prefer to write with a partner to get the highest standards possible.
Do I not have the right to say Miranda Hart doesn't perform well enough when Simon Cowell criticises performers when he has no performing talents whatsoever?

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Simon Cowell knows his business well though, he knows what sells in the music industry and what will work and what won't. You don't get a successful record label without having an eye for talent and being able to tell people they have none.

Quote: David Carmon @ September 4 2011, 11:13 PM BST

talent

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Define 'Talent'.

Quote: David Carmon @ September 4 2011, 11:13 PM BST

Simon Cowell knows his business well though, he knows what sells in the music

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Nah.

Him and his cronies effectively tell all the sheep like morons in the country what tacky, manufactured bollocks to listen to and what to buy - and they all do it, 'cos they're sheep, like. And morons.

They can't be bothered to seek out decent music by themselves - so they sit in front of the telly on a Saturday night and let that dickhead do it for them.

He had his own record company well before X Factor was even thought of though and before that not many people had heard of him, yet he was still signing people and having massive hits. Even if it did include Robson and Jerome.

'Talent' = people who can actually sing. He has the ability to be able to tell who can and who can't and is not afraid of telling people that they are deluding themselves that they have any vocal ability.

He is also very good at spotting people who aren't as good at singing as some but will sell records due to other factors, such as likeability or plain old good looks.

Your comment about telling people what to buy - I did say also that he knows what will sell and what won't. In other words, what he knows the public will part with their cash for.

Yes but Simon Cowell criticises comedians and dancers too. (He's also promoted singers who've been flops).
He's another example of the current batch of entertainers who have family money behind them (like Miranda Hart). I put that in to keep it on topic.
I don't suppose Miranda's mother was too heart-broken about her choice of career when she learnt Michael McIntyre earns £5m a year.
Incidentally, did you know Canterbury University offers a degree in comedy? Bit like offering a degree in singing or athletics. You can only "learn" so much, the rest is natural ability.
Observational humour is what it says on the tin. If you choose a subject the audience hasn't observed, it'll die a death. So some middle class comics seem limited in their range of subjects. And female comics mostly talk about relationships or if ethnic, racism.
By the way, I've only seen a few episodes of Miranda but never one when somebody actually bought a joke item in her shop. Can somebody describe what happened when they did?

Quote: Yorick @ September 6 2011, 4:35 PM BST

He's another example of the current batch of entertainers who have family money behind them (like Miranda Hart).

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Yeah, there's an endless glut of comedians with Navy officer dads. Those navy connections are what gets people a series these days!

Miranda's private school currently charges £20,000 a year for boarders. That's more than I ever earned p.a. in my life. She is also related to members of the aristocracy.
Perhaps her mother took in washing to pay for it.

So what?

Do you want rich people to hide indoors? Or do you want a rule that rich people shouldn't be allowed on TV? Maybe you think that rich people can't possibly be born with any comedic talent?
I don't understand what you're getting at.

Quote: Yorick @ September 7 2011, 1:39 AM BST

Miranda's private school currently charges £20,000 a year for boarders. That's more than I ever earned p.a. in my life. She is also related to members of the aristocracy.
Perhaps her mother took in washing to pay for it.

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What does this have to do with anything? What does it matter how well off a comedian's family was growing up, as long as they're funny? And Miranda is certainly funny.

She's NOT funny.
Her "comedy" is so predictable.
Her asides to camera are pathetic, as is her "falling over".

Quote: Charlie Boy @ September 9 2011, 11:35 AM BST

She's NOT funny.
Her "comedy" is so predictable.
Her asides to camera are pathetic, as is her "falling over".

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Thanks for clearing that up for us with your definitive opinion Charlie Boy, wonder what's causing me and my wife to laugh then when we watch the show? Any ideas?