Is Barrack gonna beat 4 years? Page 6

Quote: DaButt @ August 13 2009, 1:49 PM BST

Poor people are not refused medical treatment, they're billed and never pay and the charges are eventually dropped. It's the middle class who take the biggest hit if they're uninsured.

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And that's a good thing?

The existence of the employed in America, e.g. working over 40 hours but still meeting the UN requirements for poverty is bizarre.

By the way one of the indicators for poverty is to have unavoidable physical hunger 3 times a week.

Oh and bankrupting sick poor people is a briliant way of keeping them poor.

Quote: Aaron @ August 13 2009, 1:57 PM BST

Despite what they'd have you believe, it's not as simple as that. But for the sake of your quaint argument, yes we should.

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Here here the groundwork for the NHS was started in the interwar years and it was cross party supported, as it still is. Thatcher may have starved it of some funds, but broadly speaking people who have public funded health care like it.

Nobody is hungry in this country unless they choose not to eat.

Quote: Aaron @ August 13 2009, 3:02 PM BST

I'd also like to see alcoholics refused liver transplants and on a different note entirely, a proper study into the nationalisation of the railways.

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Aaron doesn't see things in black and white who dared say he does!?!?!

Quote: DaButt @ August 13 2009, 6:40 PM BST

Nobody is hungry in this country unless they choose not to eat.

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Or can't get through the all you can eat buffy quick enough.

But sseriously: http://gizmodo.com/5290118/microsoft-donates-eight-meals-for-each-internet-explorer-8-download

I laughed a little at first but I must admit Microsft do give a hell of a lot back.

Has anybody posted this yet?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7420744.stm

He started a charity - Remote Area Medical (RAM) - more than 20 years ago to bring relief to those cut off from healthcare.

Originally it was to help poor tribes in the former British colony of Guyana, South America.
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But now Stan spends most of his time bringing relief to the richest country in the world.

Some 60% of RAM's work is now carried out in the United States.

Quote: Aaron @ August 13 2009, 3:02 PM BST

I'd also like to see alcoholics refused liver transplants

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If they don't quit drinking, they are. I know one of the people responsible for kicking them off the waiting list.

Quote: DaButt @ August 13 2009, 6:40 PM BST

Nobody is hungry in this country unless they choose not to eat.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/feb/19/usa.paulharris

DaButt you're starting to sound a bit like a chum of mine who used to be in the Stazi (well he was a border guard on the Baltic but same diference).

Quote: Aaron @ August 13 2009, 3:02 PM BST

Ha. I suppose that would be ... well, better than nothing. Would pay for most of the NHS treatment those kind of c**ts drum up after their pissy booze ups.

I'd also like to see alcoholics refused liver transplants and on a different note entirely, a proper study into the nationalisation of the railways.

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You have to be off booze for 6 months before your considered, I think that's international.

There was a chap who died aged 21 recently and was refused a transplant.

Quote: Paul W @ August 13 2009, 6:46 PM BST

Aaron doesn't see things in black and white who dared say he does!?!?!

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As I'm the one who was saying that it wasn't as simple as being a Labour invention, that kind of accusation is pretty rich, and only serves to highlight the ignorance of those of you who are making it.

All this and the minimun wage is almost half the UK one!

How did a country end up hating and blaming such a large portion of it's self for being poor or unfortnate?

That said I'd like to take some of the fat out of the UK welfare system.