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I think the main thing that puts Maradona above people like Pele, Best and Cruyff, is that, when it comes to highlight compilations on YouTube, Maradona's are a lot longer than those of the others. One bloke on YouTube has put together a Maradona skills compilation that's in about 15 different parts! What I'm saying is, many players have done great things over the years, but no other player has done as many great things as Maradona. He's a bit like the footballing equivalent of the Beatles, because it's impossible to fill one YouTube clip with his highlights, without having to leave many great moments out, due to lack of time.

As for Messi, he's still very young, so who knows how long his highlight compilations will be in 10 years time?

Yeah, but what is 'the West Ham way'? A free-flowing, passing style? I'm 29 and cannot recall seeing West Aaam play that way. It is a mystery to me.

So, they want success, but only in a certain way? Bowlocks.

West Aam have got such a massive opinion of themselves.

Quote: catskillz @ June 1 2011, 10:33 PM BST

I think the main thing that puts Maradona above people like Pele, Best and Cruyff, is that, when it comes to highlight compilations on YouTube, Maradona's are a lot longer than those of the others. One bloke on YouTube has put together a Maradona skills compilation that's in about 15 different parts! What I'm saying is, many players have done great things over the years, but no other player has done as many great things as Maradona. He's a bit like the footballing equivalent of the Beatles, because it's impossible to fill one YouTube clip with his highlights, without having to leave many great moments out, due to lack of time.

As for Messi, he's still very young, so who knows how long his highlight compilations will be in 10 years time?

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You seem to forget though that with Maradona and Messi most of their games have been filmed whereas for Best, Pele, Puskas and Cruyff there was a limit to where cameras could be sent so there would be equally as many brilliant you-tubes for the others.

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ June 1 2011, 5:04 PM BST

Allardyce vows to play 'the West Ham way'. That'll be interesting to see, seeing as he made his name by stopping teams playing the West Ham way.

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What's that? Getting relegated?

Harry Redknapp pointed out that West Ham only really had that reputation in the era of Moore, Hurst and Peters.

What he didn't mention in the article was that during that period he was playing on the wing for them.

Quote: Chappers @ June 2 2011, 4:26 PM BST

You seem to forget though that with Maradona and Messi most of their games have been filmed whereas for Best, Pele, Puskas and Cruyff there was a limit to where cameras could be sent so there would be equally as many brilliant you-tubes for the others.

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Yeah, okay, that's a good point.

By the way, going back to Maradona vs. Messi, I should point out two more things:

1. If you watch Maradona's highlight clips carefully, you'll notice that about 99% of them come from the 1980s, even though he didn't retire until about 1997. As far as dazzling the world with his skills was concerned, it was all over for him by the time he was 28/29 (who remembers watching him at the 1990 World Cup in Italy and being disappointed that he was no longer taking everyone on, as he had done in Mexico, in '86?). Yes, he was banned twice, but when he did play during the '90s, he was either out of shape, or, as was the case at the '94 World Cup, using illegal substances to help him get through matches. If he'd kept dazzling people for as long as, say, Zico and Romario, or even Ryan Giggs, his compilations would be a lot longer. Who knows, Messi might only have another 5 or 6 years of highlight-reel- standard football in him as well.

2. Messi gets far more protection from referees than Maradona ever did. It's crazy to think Maradona achieved all that he did, especially when playing in defence-obsessed Italy, back in the days of back-four legends like Gentille, Bergomi, Baresi and Maldini, when he was only 5ft 5" tall, and most of the time didn't even wear shin-pads! Actually, I should give Pele, Puskas, Best and Cruyff credit for that as well, because they were hacked all over the place back in their playing days as well.

Stan Bowles apparently never wore shin-pads with his socks down so the refs could see how he'd been kicked.

"Right, so what we do is .. . . "

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...change the kit to claret and blue rubber.

Brazil vs Holland tonight. Should be a good watch.

2-0 down to a team that barely get two goals a year. Another farce in the making.

Well, Most England keepers let a couple of howlers in during their career. Joe Hart's done it in five minutes. Nice work.

Nevermind, we've got a whole list of back-up goalies: Foster, Robinson, etc.......oh, hang on.....

Great goal that. 2-2

...Green...

Blimey, that midfield looks half decent now. What's happened? Oh he's taken off Lampard!

Wayne "Elton" Rooney.

He's really asking to have the piss taken out of him. Is that to deflect all the attention from three-timer Giggs?

Incidentally haven't heard from many Manchester United supporters for a couple of weeks.

If I was balding, the only time I'd consider having a hair transplant (or whatever it's called), would be if I was going to live somewhere, where nobody knew me, so that they wouldn't know the hair was fake.

I don't understand why famous people get it done, when everyone knows about it. If I was a woman, I'd find a bloke with a head full of fake hair far more repulsive than a bloke with no hair on his head. Also, it smacks of desperation, and makes a bloke seem a bit womanly.

Maybe some of the girls/women on here could give their opinion. Then again, they probably don't read this thread.

So, who's Giggs been boneing today then?