Crikey I'm glad there's a small number of people out there as foolish as me willing to pay for them.
See Don I think you offer disparegement not criticisim. That would mean offering a suggestion on how to make an improvement.
If you can offer a suggestion on how to improve one's writing, please do so.
Quote: sootyj @ May 4 2009, 6:39 PM BSTCrikey I'm glad there's a small number of people out there as foolish as me willing to pay for them.
Pay for what?
My various bits of comedy writings.
Could you also offer advice on how I could improve my insinuation and sarcasm for that matter.
Quote: sootyj @ May 4 2009, 6:39 PM BSTIf you can offer a suggestion on how to improve one's writing, please do so.
I often do. You've obviously missed it - that's kind of my point!
Quote: don rushmore @ May 4 2009, 6:48 PM BSTI often do.
Cyber Fight!...cyber fight...cyber fight!
(shit too many ellipses)
Nope, there'll be no fighting here. Just calm orderly debate.
Don, in Sooty's defence (not that he needs it), he's using this forum in several ways and it's often hard for a reader to suss out his intention behind a sketch. We see both unpolished disposable topical sketches and polished clever sketches.
I've always whinged to Sooty about moving into less disposable general sketches because there is undeniably something special going on inside his noggin that should be put into a wider domain other than this forum and topical stage shows. I suspect a few of us here have noted his gradual move to less news-dependent material which, imo, now forms the strongest part of his writing. Nothing to do with my whinging, btw - he just deletes my begging PMs.
I would love to be as prodigious as Sooty and let a script editor worry about what to keep and what to not.
Quote: don rushmore @ May 4 2009, 4:37 PM BSTSooty, instead of posting 18 sketches a day, why not work on one, make it as good as you can, and then post that?
I'd rather read one great sketch than trawl through 18 that are mediocre at best.
As you can see, I just asked Sooty a simple question. I don't know what all the fuss is about.
Quote: don rushmore @ May 4 2009, 6:22 PM BSTYou've answered my question very well, Sooty - especially with reason 1.
To answer yours:
I just wish more people would learn the basic mechanics of sketch/sitcom writing - how to tell a gag, if you like. Time and time again, good advice is given and not taken aboard. It's always the same old people on here, making the same old mistakes.
And then you responded.
In a slightly rude and patronising manner.
Frankly I'm happy to just chat about writing and stuff.
Don, I understood your first post, Sir. I kinda included an element of it in my post.
I was trying to restore the balance in this thread - like a Jedi with an unpronouncable name and a thick (very thick) Welsh accent. Plus making sure I stamped on anything that threatened to become other than polite discourse.
Stamping is the least favourite part of the job.
Accepted.
Quote: sootyj @ May 4 2009, 9:27 PM BSTAccepted.
What? My ebbullient effervescent praise? 
Quote: sootyj @ May 4 2009, 9:22 PM BSTAnd then you responded.
In a slightly rude and patronising manner.
Frankly I'm happy to just chat about writing and stuff.
Sooty, if I don't like your work, I will tell you as such. Sometimes I will offer constructive criticism; sometimes I won't.
But please do not confuse outspoken opinion with trolling. They are two very different things.
"Flattery makes friends and truth makes enemies."
I do think you're a truly terrible writer, but that is my opinion, and I'm fully entitled to it.
So who mentioned the T word? Frankly I'm going back to staring at squirrels, there's one outside my window who think's he's all that.
I'm going to show him he 'aint.
Quote: sootyj @ May 4 2009, 9:40 PM BSTSo who mentioned the T word?
You did, Sooty, on another thread - as you well know!
But, anyway, I don't hold grudges, so all the best with your writing career.
On the sketch, I feel it's Sven Goran Erikson with England - first half good, second half not so good (a technique he also brought to Manchester City's season last year).
I really like the German bits, but not sure if you need to have a second scene with the Brits. If you set up a second scene I think it needs to deliver funnier lines than the first one, and quicker, and this set up doesn't do that. But I think the first scene can live safely on its own.