WR suck. What other prod co's would peopple recommend to send unsolicited stuff to?
Got my script back from Writersroom Page 3
Bad luck with the rejection Mikey but I get the impression you are one of the most positive voices on here and it won't keep you down for long! I hope not anyway.
Cheers, Badge. Yeah, I'll bounce back, bigger and better. 
Thanks for all the input from everybody.
WR suck. What other prod co's would peopple recommend to send unsolicited stuff to?
You can find addresses to other "open door" places on this very website.
One thing to remember. Make sure you're 100% happy with your script before sending.
You know, I know you were earlier criticised for having the directions as far too terse, but they've gone too far the other way now. They're ludicrously florid now.
Yeh I've looked thru the lists of prod co's but just wondering which ones people have had a positive experience with? I used to work for a major indie who produced alot of stuff for the BBC and most scripts that arrived were dumped in a box without ever being read!
You know, I know you were earlier criticised for having the directions as far too terse, but they've gone too far the other way now. They're ludicrously florid now.
Ha, I can't win.
Yeh I've looked thru the lists of prod co's but just wondering which ones people have had a positive experience with? I used to work for a major indie who produced alot of stuff for the BBC and most scripts that arrived were dumped in a box without ever being read!
I dare say that's what most of them are like.
Troube is, once a prodco opens their doors to unsolicited scripts, 99% will be shite.
Didn't someone mention somewhere around here that Writers' Room look more for writers than writing? I think that's probably the difference. ie production companies are looking for scripts to develop, Writers' Room are probably looking for people to 'team-write' stuff like My Family, Two Pints, etc, etc.
Anyway, just keep sending it to different places. Any success I've had with any work has at least been rejected once by someone else beforehand!
Dan
This from the Sun.
'WHEN I give my cash to the BBC every month for a TV licence I expect it to go to responsible people making top telly shows.
But I was disappointed when I heard that Mr PETER DOHERTY, a fine upstanding member of his local community, was meeting BBC bosses on Tuesday for a job interview.
Sadly the grubby rocker is not in line for a job cleaning the wayward splashes off JONATHAN ROSS's private urinal at London's Television Centre.
The junkie, who claims to have cleaned up his act bar a few gin and tonics, was being briefed about writing a pilot for a drama series.
A source at the Beeb's HQ said: "Pete was meeting creative chiefs. They've commissioned him to write a Skins-style show on the dark side of the music industry.
"They want a pilot episode written in the next six weeks which will become a series, if he can come up with the goods.
"Beeb bosses think Pete has a creative streak that will produce some gritty TV.
"He's seen it all as a hellraising rock star, so they want his experiences written in."
Has Pete been to the writersroom?
I had a script rejected by the WR that is now in development with a production company. Woof! Woof! So don't believe the hype, my friends. You're being used.
Quote: swerytd @ March 27 2009, 9:34 AM GMTDidn't someone mention somewhere around here that Writers' Room look more for writers than writing? I think that's probably the difference. ie production companies are looking for scripts to develop, Writers' Room are probably looking for people to 'team-write' stuff like My Family, Two Pints, etc, etc.
At a meeting I attended at the writing room (Desperatly trying to not look accusingly at the people there thinking 'Which of you gits turned down 'the Banjo') they expressed exactly that sentiment.
So not actually adding anything to this thread... no change there then...
So what about that weather?
Quote: Mikey Jackson @ March 27 2009, 1:37 AM GMTHa, I can't win.
I know. But I do think there's a happy medium. To quote Lee Henman from earlier..
"WOMAN momentarily contemplative, wistful. After heaing front door close, narrows eyes..."
I can see you're trying to be economical with your words but it's much better to use words like "her" and "his" and "the". The way you've written it feels very mechanical and cold. A script should read like a story. Forget the nonsense you might get told about a script merely being a set of instructions, it isn't. It's a story too and you have to be engaging in the direction as well as the dialogue.
New stage directions:
"WOMAN momentarily lost in wistful contemplation. After
hearing the front door close, she narrows her eyes in an I
wonder type of way.
Reaches over. Plucks her mobile from the handbag propped up
on her bedside cabinet. Locates STEVE'S number in her
phonebook. Waits to be connected and -
- is surprised to hear the number not recognised tone, but
not really that shocked."
I think that you've overinterpreted what Lee said. How about:
"We hold on the woman lost in wistful contemplation. The front door closes. After a moment, she narrows her eyes. She plucks her mobile from the handbag on her bedside cabinet." and so on...
As it is, the directions aren't really televisual. That short sequence is complicated for two reasons.
1) It's impossible to convey the intended message at the moment. Given that the TV audience don't know Steve's name at this point, there is no way of conveying who she's phoning, whether it's the guy who's just left or someone new.
2) It's also really hard to play. I've no idea how an actor can do 'surprised but not really that shocked'.
I think this is stuff that may have let you down.
I'm sorry if I come across like a dog with a bone, but just take a look at the WR homepage: 'Who we are – review of the year and how we've helped talent recently'. Most of the people listed were 'discovered' years ago. Doesn't anyone else think that's strange? Until very recently I enthusiastically rubbed up and down against the WR trouser leg. Now I poo on their pavement.
I've always thought of Writers Room as more of a buffer for weeding out the large percentage of cobblers they undoubtedly receive, rather than a unit dedicated to the more specific act of recognising and developing writers.
Good advice, I think, comes from Radio 4 Commissioner Caroline Raphael, from this very site:
Caroline was happy to give clear guidelines to those connected to the British Comedy Guide and interested in submitting comedy material to R4. As Commissioning Editor for R4 comedy, does one simply send her material? Well no. DVDs, CDs, websites and scripts only get a look in when they come attached to a producer - literally at this point, attached as in their hand. So she's not joking when she says the best use of the wannabe writer's time is to make friends with a producer. They have her ear, and her ear likes to hear a producer coming through her office door with a script saying 'read this'.
Quote: john lucas 101 @ March 27 2009, 1:55 PM GMTshe's not joking when she says the best use of the wannabe writer's time is to make friends with a producer. They have her ear
Like in Reservoir Dogs?
Your lucky, I have FOUR letters from these bastards, they are all worded the same, which means they must have a special NO template letter.
Way to go BBC Writersroom.
Sorry regarding the mention of few laughs, as you have brought to my attention the fact it's more drama. Did enjoy the amusing moments it does have
Some more of my thoughts – for what they're worth (probably bugger all)
I will say again though from the beginning I didn't know where this was going. It took several scenes before it got running, which felt too long (I say this as I've had this pointed out to me on my work... thankfully)
Where is the hook of a storyline to grab the reader?
The descriptive seems overdone and a bit all over the place at times but I'll not go on as others have mentioned.
Should you have a new page for each new scene?
You have some good characters
Maybe needs more pace, dunno, who am I to say.
I enjoyed the read and feel it has potential but I personally think it needs more to grab the reader as it tends to plod on... (being totally honest, at times it was an effort to read on) and by the end it didn't leave me wanting more 
Reading back the above sounds as though I'm being a twat, obviously not my intention at all, I'm just being honest with you... but at the end of the day, what do I know anyway.