And I should think so too!
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Quote: Matthew Stott @ March 23 2009, 3:08 PM GMTHe's asking you to, not telling you to.
Indeed, but I find it rather assumptive to ask me to share an opinion to such an extent that I pass the same onto my friends and request they take action opon it in some way.
Sure, the press are wankers, the hack is nasty, Ross shouldn't have said what he did, Scottish kids should engage brain before posting on the net.......I just don't want to be told how to act upon hearing these things - and (as Ross/Brand showed) to do so just creates a completely unrepresentative impression of public felling anyway.
Quote: Lee Henman @ March 23 2009, 3:12 PM GMT
Holy shit. Okay, I shall reword it to "Be disgusted, or don't...your choice,really...no pressure..."
How about:
"I'm disgusted...but how do you feel? If you feel the same then...etc, etc"
Just a bit more polite
Quote: Tiggs @ March 23 2009, 3:15 PM GMTI just don't want to be told how to act upon hearing these things - and (as Ross/Brand showed) to do so just creates a completely unrepresentative impression of public felling anyway.
Public felling?? He's not asking you to kill anyone!
I have cut down several trees already.
Quote: Marc P @ March 23 2009, 3:17 PM GMTPublic felling?? He's not asking you to kill anyone!
Would felling a person kill them? I was aiming to instigated a tumbling downwards, nothing more.
Quote: Tiggs @ March 23 2009, 3:18 PM GMTWould felling a person kill them? I was aiming to instigated a tumbling downwards, nothing more.
It depends how big their head is - if mine were to hit the ground I fear a Tsunami would hit Holland.
Okay, I think I'm going to step away from this thread now, it's beginning to annoy me. I shall return later when my outrage-ometer has returned to something approaching normal again.
I'm always amazed at how sick people can be. How that person can sleep at night, I don't understand.
I'm not a keen fan of that kind of journalism and I think it's so wrong but the problem is they exist because people like us buy the taboids they write for providing a demand. Even if we write in and complain about the bits we hate, we are still providing them with figures and money. It's like most things in the media. We complain about things that are published and yet buy the very papers and magazines and watch the shows and buy the products advertised. The only way to stop it all is to make a clear NO to the media bosses and not buy those crappy taboids in the first place. It's so very hard now, like a catch 22. As long as interest in those stories and picture exist, the world is going to produce more and more immoral idiots. 
I don't think anyone is condoning or otherwise supporting the press (or that vile reporter) Lee, we're just not quite as outraged by it as you are. S'all. 
(Personally, I find the behaviour of the persons concerned more abhorrent, but that's a different matter entirely.)
Quote: Tiggs @ March 23 2009, 3:16 PM GMTIndeed, but I find it rather assumptive to ask me to share an opinion to such an extent that I pass the same onto my friends and request they take action opon it in some way.
He is only asking you to. Make up your own mind and opinion.
Quote: RubyMae - Glamourous Snowdrop at Large @ March 23 2009, 3:30 PM GMTI'm not a keen fan of that kind of journalism and I think it's so wrong but the problem is they exist because people like us buy the taboids they write for providing a demand. Even if we write in and complain about the bits we hate, we are still providing them with figures and money. It's like most things in the media. We complain about things that are published and yet buy the very papers and magazines and watch the shows and buy the products advertised. The only way to stop it all is to make a clear NO to the media bosses and not buy those crappy taboids in the first place. It's so very hard now, like a catch 22. As long as interest in those stories and picture exist, the world is going to produce more and more immoral idiots.
So, basically what you're saying, is that we need to set up our own tabloid newspaper, and vow to never publish that kind of shit. Sounds good to me!
(If I had the money.)
YAY! I'll get my crayons!
I just despair at the motivation of the journalist, and the depressing fact that people apparently want to read that kind of cack. It's just a non-story; survivors of tragedy living normal teenaged lives. As someone had written under the article, a la Judge Dredd, the crime...isss life.
Mind you, I am the kind of person who reads the letters page of the Daily Mail just to get annoyed at the views of the people (not that I buy it) who write in, and the fact they thought anyone'd be interested in reading their points of view. Ok, I am but that's...different.
Quote: Aaron @ March 23 2009, 3:32 PM GMTSo, basically what you're saying, is that we need to set up our own tabloid newspaper, and vow to never publish that kind of shit. Sounds good to me!
It would never sell. For better or worse, people get off on reading that kind of crap. It sells. Hell, I've often found myself on a train picking up an old Express or Mail and enjoying reading a hatchet job on some poor bastard. It's not something I'm proud of, but something I do.
On this story, it does seem particularly venal, but ultimately a bit of a misfire.