David Cameron? Page 3

Quote: chipolata @ February 19 2009, 11:23 AM GMT

Yes, but they're largely interchangeable. Although for what it's worth, I think Gordon Brown has as much chance of winning the next election as Jade Goody celebrating Christmas.

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I agree about the interchangeability, but crucially the Tories are against ID cards. That's a crucial factor for me.

Quote: chipolata @ February 19 2009, 11:27 AM GMT

Never Never Land?

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Doesn't have to be that absolute, lots of places are way better than here, relatively speaking.

Quote: Bad dog @ February 19 2009, 11:28 AM GMT

Doesn't have to be that absolute, lots of places are way better than here, relatively speaking.

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Agreed. But the idea that a Government would make you move to one seems slightly ridiculous. This country will bumble along in the same vein whoever's in power. If somebody doesn't like it, and has the means to emigrate, fair enough, but don't start pretending that all a country's ills have to do with whatever politicians are in power at the time. That's absurd.

I couldn't bumble along in a police state.

Quote: Bad dog @ February 19 2009, 8:48 AM GMT

He may be Tory Blair, but fortunately he's against ID cards, so I hope he wins the next election.

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Precisely. On balance the Tories are slightly more contemptable than New labour, but unlike New Labour they are free to ditch the disastrous policies of the last decade (ID cards, the NHS computer, Tax Credits, PPP, airport expansion etc etc) without losing credibility. Doubtless the Tories will come up with policies that are just as bad, but hopefully we can vote them out again before they have the chance to do any real damage.

Quote: Bad dog @ February 19 2009, 11:28 AM GMT

Doesn't have to be that absolute, lots of places are way better than here, relatively speaking.

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Are there, though? I think we're pretty lucky in the UK with regards weather (temperate) and natural disasters, location (it's great being an island), culture (we speak English and have European culture on our doorstep) a low homicide rate, beautiful and variable countryside and non-dangerous wildlife. We have a good degree of freedom of speech and a good level of general tolerance. Overall I think it's a pretty good place to live.

I just don't see why people in politics don't just take the honest approach with everything.

I think that we should do XYZ.

This will cost ££££ and should achieve ABC.

If you agree with us vote for us, if you don't agree don't.

If you actually get elected then carry out what you said.

If you balls up or you don't get the results you expected - tell people in simple terms.

Its got to be better than giving half answers, or not answering questions or telling porkie pies.

Surely it's easy?

Quote: chipolata @ February 19 2009, 11:27 AM GMT

Never Never Land?

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Captain Hook is the head of government in Never Never Land, that's your idea of fair good government?

We've got enough pirates in Parliament already.

But no plank for them to walk!
Ha take that satire!

The sole diference between Brown and Cameron is you'd need to drink less to shag Cameron (he really is quite pretty).

Vince Cable would be ace, but is too sensible to want the job.

Has Cameron sorted out his parting yet? I recall it was moving around at one point, like a floating voter. And look at those trainers - they look like he found them in a bin behind Oxfam. You have to laugh at his polar bear and bike riding antics.

Quote: Bad dog @ February 19 2009, 8:48 AM GMT

If Labour win again, it's time to emigrate as Britain is going to be seriously f**ked.

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Even moreso than now? Not sure even they could manage that one.

Quote: Blenkinsop @ February 19 2009, 8:56 AM GMT

Hey, you're not Jim Davidson are you BD?

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Quote: chipolata @ February 19 2009, 11:23 AM GMT

Although for what it's worth, I think Gordon Brown has as much chance of winning the next election as Jade Goody celebrating Christmas.

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LOL.

Quote: chipolata @ February 19 2009, 11:27 AM GMT

Never Never Land?

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*snigger*

Quote: Dolly Dagger @ February 19 2009, 11:46 AM GMT

Are there, though? I think we're pretty lucky in the UK with regards weather (temperate) and natural disasters, location (it's great being an island), culture (we speak English and have European culture on our doorstep) a low homicide rate, beautiful and variable countryside and non-dangerous wildlife. We have a good degree of freedom of speech and a good level of general tolerance. Overall I think it's a pretty good place to live.

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I'm agreeing with Dolly. Help.

*is scared*

(Well, apart from the weather bit. Too hot here.)

Quote: bigfella @ February 19 2009, 11:54 AM GMT

I just don't see why people in politics don't just take the honest approach with everything.

I think that we should do XYZ.

This will cost ££££ and should achieve ABC.

If you agree with us vote for us, if you don't agree don't.

If you actually get elected then carry out what you said.

If you balls up or you don't get the results you expected - tell people in simple terms.

Its got to be better than giving half answers, or not answering questions or telling porkie pies.

Surely it's easy?

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Well in theory, yes. But in practice, there's privacy, security, international relations, and secrecy issues to contend with. See Yes Minister - S01E01 Open Government.

Quote: sootyj @ February 19 2009, 12:05 PM GMT

The sole diference between Brown and Cameron is you'd need to drink less to shag Cameron (he really is quite pretty).

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