Quote: chipolata @ December 15 2008, 2:11 PM GMT"Common sense tells us that our existence is but a brief crack of light between two eternities of darkness" - Vladimir Nabakov.
Bundle of laughs, that Nabakov guy.
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Quote: Lee Henman @ December 15 2008, 2:17 PM GMTBundle of laughs, that Nabakov guy.
Funnily enough, he was. Lolita is a very funny novel indeed (something neither of the films really captured). And Pale Fire is comedy writing at its finest.
Quote: Dr Mato @ December 15 2008, 2:13 PM GMTWell, you can buy me a drink.
If you check your gun at the door.
As I've said before, I don't own a gun and I never have. But that might change one of these days. 
Quote: DaButt @ December 15 2008, 3:38 PM GMTAs I've said before, I don't own a gun and I never have. But that might change one of these days.
er........okay 
I sometimes think that dying may be like going under anaethestic (which is actually quite pleasant) but I also have a feeling that there is more - though what I'm unsure.
If there isn't more than I think it reduces us down to no more than animals, no more than flesh and blood and - as anyone who has seen a corpse may be able to understand - there is so much more to a person than just the physical. Saying that we just cease to exist also, in my opinion, makes a mockery of the things that makes us 'civilised' and different from the animals - namely love.
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ December 15 2008, 4:16 PM GMTSaying that we just cease to exist also, in my opinion, makes a mockery of the things that makes us 'civilised' and different from the animals - namely love.
Love isn't what makes us different from animals since they are also capable of feeling love.
Quote: chipolata @ December 15 2008, 4:19 PM GMTLove isn't what makes us different from animals since they are also capable of feeling love.
Do you have an example?
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ December 15 2008, 4:19 PM GMTDo you have an example?
Animals often mate for life. Plus all my cats love and respect me deeply. IMO, the thing that seperates humans from animals is that we're aware of our own mortality, they aint.
Hmm joke about sheep feeling my love? Ooh er.
To cheap won't make it.
Animals don't feel love, they're just vegetables with legs.
Quote: chipolata @ December 15 2008, 4:21 PM GMTAnimals often mate for life. Plus all my cats love and respect me deeply. IMO, the thing that seperates humans from animals is that we're aware of our own mortality, they aint.
I shall prefer a loyal dog or cat over most humans any day...... please and thank you. 
Quote: chipolata @ December 15 2008, 4:21 PM GMTAnimals often mate for life. Plus all my cats love and respect me deeply. IMO, the thing that seperates humans from animals is that we're aware of our own mortality, they aint.
Not really love though is it. That's examples of loyalty, procreating through instinct, following pack order and waiting to be fed.
Quote: zooo @ December 15 2008, 12:51 AM GMTStop marrying the wrong people then!
Honestly, it's not rocket science...
Well it has something to do with trajectory and propulsion.
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ December 15 2008, 4:23 PM GMTNot really love though is it. That's examples of loyalty, procreating through instinct, following pack order and waiting to be fed.
I've seen animals display deep affection towards one another. To the extent that they actually pine away and die when one dies... It's certainly as deep and meaningful as the "love" most humans feel for other humans.
Quote: zooo @ December 15 2008, 12:57 AM GMTHmmm. Well women sound like a right pain in the arse in that case.
That's the men.
Quote: DaButt @ December 15 2008, 1:44 AM GMTDo you really feel that way? I like to look at life as a generally pleasant journey with a lot of wonderful moments interspersed with the occasional rough patch to keep things interesting.
Mine seems to be the other way round at the moment. Still at least there are some wonderful moments.
Quote: chipolata @ December 15 2008, 4:25 PM GMTI've seen animals display deep affection towards one another. To the extent that they actually pine away and die when one dies... It's certainly as deep and meaningful as the "love" most humans feel for other humans.
I think that's just a sense of pack loyalty. They don't know where they are without the rest of the pack (btw I've kept dogs, cats, ponies, rabbits, guinea pigs, hamsters, fish, turtles, budgies, mice and rats and relationships with humans are definitely different and deeper!).