Quote: DaButt @ June 20 2012, 3:22 PM BSTProof?
You shold be more trusting, DaButt.
I read the news today oh boy! Page 897
Quote: Nat Wicks @ June 20 2012, 3:23 PM BSTYou shold be more trusting, DaButt.
Sootyj is one man speaking on the Internet, not a team of detectives, cops, sheriffs, medical officials, witnesses and reporters.
You are literally no fun.
Quote: Nat Wicks @ June 20 2012, 3:29 PM BSTYou are literally no fun.
That's one of my favourite songs.
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16233164
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-17547377
Shit that was way too easy - all I did was enter paedophile+murdered on the search engine and that lot turned up in the first two pages.
Quote: DaButt @ June 20 2012, 3:33 PM BSTThat's one of my favourite songs.
I'm not going to follow that because I've been inspired and may have written my best chorus to a song yet. YEEHA!
Quote: Tursiops @ June 20 2012, 3:38 PM BSTShit that was way too easy - all I did was enter paedophile+murdered on the search engine and that lot turned up in the first two pages.
Only 3 of those took place in the UK and they were over the course of 2 or 3 years. With 600 murders per year, we're looking at less than a quarter of a percent and I don't think that meets the criteria for being called 'common.'
It wasn't an extensive survey of UK murder rates. It was two pages of Google, on which there was a lot of repetition of stories from different new sources; and I was using a search criteria that I had assumed would be more likely to throw up examples of murder by paedophiles or of the murder of genuine paedophiles. In fact the split was actually about equal between the three.
I found it quite frightening; but then this a country in which lynch mobs form outside the homes of paediatricians.
Quote: sootyj @ June 20 2012, 2:32 PM BSTI think everyone posted before the facts were known..
Quote: DaButt @ June 20 2012, 2:11 PM BSTEvidence can't be released immediately or it might completely foul up the judgment I'd already made about it.
Quote: DaButt @ June 20 2012, 2:29 PM BST'trust no one.'
Quote: chipolata @ June 20 2012, 2:45 PM BSTDon't you embrace that same motto when it comes to the federal government and the president?
Quote: DaButt @ June 20 2012, 2:48 PM BSTNo, not at all.
Quote: DaButt @ June 20 2012, 2:53 PM BSTI'll admit that I opened a bottle of my favourite beer and toasted the SEALS the night they killed bin Laden.
Quote: DaButt @ June 20 2012, 2:29 PM BST'trust no one.'
Quote: DaButt @ June 20 2012, 3:22 PM BSTThat isn't anywhere close to the truth in this country and I remain unconvinced that it's commonplace in the UK. Proof?
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Quote: DaButt @ June 20 2012, 3:28 PM BST<insert name here> is one man speaking on the Internet..
Quote: DaButt @ June 20 2012, 3:22 PM BSTProof?
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Quote: Tursiops @ June 20 2012, 4:16 PM BSTthis a country in which lynch mobs form outside the homes of paediatricians.
I think that story has been shown to have been fabricated.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-17547377
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-17911697
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2007/jul/31/socialcare.comment
Thats 3 cases, I guess DaButt we don't murder people as enthusiastically as you Americans do.
And franklY I'd rather not go around digging for more of these rather sad stories.
Quote: Nogget @ June 20 2012, 5:00 PM BSTI think that story has been shown to have been fabricated.
Exaggerated absurdly 
but it did contain a kernel of truth and reflected a wider problem of vigilante justice encouraged by a certain news organ of ill-repute:
Quote: DaButt @ June 20 2012, 2:29 PM BSTNo, it was a bunch of "maybe the dad was the molester and he killed the stranger to silence him and then forced his daughter to lie to the cops" make believe scenarios coming from people who seem to have wholeheartedly embraced the X-Files' motto of 'trust no one.'
Nonsense, DaButt, the only thing that really riled anyone was your instant acceptance that the dead man was definitely guilty of molestation of the little girl, when you had seen no evidence other than some media stories. The items you mention here are merely thing that just MIGHT have been alternative happenings.
Quote: DaButt @ June 20 2012, 2:43 PM BSTYeah, and guess what: I was right.
I'm a cynical son of a bitch but I'm no so far gone that I doubt everything that I read, every decision made by a cop or every statement made by a witness. There was not a whiff of contradictory evidence in this case from Day One, so I had little reason to doubt what was initially reported. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck ...
I think they are quite uncommon, indeed. So uncommon as to be a mere blip on the radar of actual murders and their investigations in this nation.
I will always champion the right of the victim to defend him/herself against a violent criminal. As for 'given the circumstances,' in this case where a man was raping a 5-year-old girl, I'd have a hard time not high-fiving the father and spitting on the corpse.
>where a man was raping a 5-year-old girl
Nohere was an actual act of rape mentioned in the early media stories.
Quote: billwill @ June 20 2012, 7:05 PM BSTNonsense, DaButt, the only thing that really riled anyone was your instant acceptance that the dead man was definitely guilty of molestation of the little girl, when you had seen no evidence other than some media stories. The items you mention here are merely thing that just MIGHT have been alternative happenings.
Bill is a man of wisdoms.
Quote: Tursiops @ June 20 2012, 5:15 PM BSTExaggerated absurdly
Does the UK have websites where citizens can look up sex offenders by name and address? It varies among states, but most will show you a name, photo, description of the offence and a general location if not the actual address of the offender. It comes in handy when looking for a new home or apartment.